MvR Group Photo

[Bulldog90]

Hello All,

Can I have some help identifying the people in this group photo with MvR, and the approximate date it was taken? The image is Sanke 606. Its not an image I have come across very often before.

Thanks,

Bulldog 90

[Dario_Silva]

The man of clear uniform to the left of MvR, apparently is the Lt. Fritz Lübbert.
Dario

[rc.gardner]

Hi,

I asked this question a few months back about an autographed Snake 606 card that I had just found. The best answer came from Greg VanWyngarden which I copy below.

With regards,

Bob Gardner

This is the well-known Sanke card 606, one of at least two photos taken on this occasion. The late Ed Ferko identified the personnel , from left to right:

Ltn. Siegfried Gussmann, Ltn Schubert, Ltn Hans-Georg von der Osten, Ltn. Werner Steinhäuser, MvR, Ltn. Esser, Ltn. Friedrich-Wilhelm "Fritz" Lübbert, Oblt. Hans-Helmut von Boddien, Ltn. Hans Karl von Linsingen, Ltn. Eberhard Mohnike (Mohnicke), and Scholz.

"Ltn. Schubert" is, I think, the somewhat shadowy Feldwebel Leutnant Fritz Schubert who is thought to have joined Jasta 6 around March 1917; he is described as 30 years old in March 1918. On 25 August 1918, he assumed the position of JG I adjutant when Bodenschatz was on leave. On 6 September 1918, he was ordered to the staff of the Geschwader as technical officer.He was apparently promoted to Leutnant d. Landwehr on 10 October 1918; he was credited with 3 victories in Jasta 6. However, I wonder if he wasn't serving on the Staff of JG I in some capacity, at least temporarily, much earlier - or else, why would he be in this photo of "Jasta 11" ? Did he just like to sneak in on photo ops? He certainly shows up in a lot of photos which generally show the bigwigs of JG I.

The "Scholz" is Vzfw Edgar Scholz, who achieved 6 victories and was killed in the crash of his Dr.I 591/17 0n 2 May 1918.

Hope that helps.

Greg VanWyngarden

[Laserlloyd]

rc.gardner:

Interesting point on Vzfw Edgar Scholz.

I also have that as Stalled on take off and crashed at Cappy Airfield at 17:50.
One other thing, it was reported by the 209 squadron.

I wonder how 209 squadron could have seen this unless Jasta 11 was under attack by them.

Lloyd...

[Soderbaum]

Hi Bulldog

If you want a good reason that Bruno Schubert is on this photo, you can read an earlier thread about this photo a few months ago...


Gunnar

[Bulldog90]

Thanks to all for the assistance. I wonder if sometimes we overthink these things. I say that because even though someone from outside Jasta 11 is in the photo, isn't it possible that these men had friendships or "komraden" within the overall group? There must have been some interaction between these men, right?

Thanks again,

Bulldog 90

BTW- Bob, was the card you found autographed, and by which pilots?

[rc.gardner]

Originally Posted by Bulldog90

Bulldog 90

BTW- Bob, was the card you found autographed, and by which pilots?

Good Morning,

It was signed by MvR.

With regards,

Bob Gardner

[Bulldog90]

Thanks Bob, Ah a true find!

Bulldog 90