A Bavarian pilot...?

The 11th Bavarian Field Artillery Regiment officer who went into the Reichsheer does not show any flying badge among his awards in the 1924 Reichsheer Rangliste. While these are NOT flawless sources, that needs comparison with another annual issue to see if it was a one time editing mistake.

He had

Bavarian Military Merit Order 4th Class with Swords
Crown added to that 14.8.17
EK1 and 2
Oldenburg Friedrich August Cross 2nd Class
and
Austro-Hungarian Military Merit Cross 3rd Class with War Decoration

Neal O'Connor did not turn him up as a flyer when he checked the WW1 Oldenburg award rolls.

Kirschner's final seniority as Leutnant was 29 October 1912, backdated for equity with Prussians. (April 1918 Bavarian army Rank List)

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Hello Rick Research,

more infos about Kirschner's awards:
15.09.1915 bay. Militär-Verdienst-Orden IV.Klasse mit Schwerter
14.08.1917 bay. Militär-Verdienst-Orden IV.Klasse mit Krone und Schwerter
03.03.1917 Flugzeugführerabzeichen Nr. 223
11.02.1915 EK 2
24.05.1917 EK 1
14.08.1915 öster. Militär-Verdienst-Kreuz III.Klasse mit Kriegsdekoration
05.03.1918 öster. Feldpilotenabzeichen
10.11.1918 Oldenburg Friedrich-August Kreuz II. Klasse

greeting
Reinhard

Great!!!

Sometimes the Rank Lists made "little goofs" and unless somebody has ALL of them.... I once lost 15 years on identifying a naval officer because... I looked in 1926 and NOT also in 1931!!!

How is the Bavarian Kriegsarchiv to deal with these days? I used to get information all the time back in the

(gulp!)

1980s (Archivdirektor Dr. Heyl, back then, always nice to correspond with in What Computers? Days), when they would cheerfully copy Auszüge aus der Kriegsranglisten for me on REGULAR officers but NOT on dR officers!

Not a flyer, but infantry Oberleutnant dR Friedrich Lautenschlager (born 24.1. or 24.12.-- both ways on two different documents!) 1885 has been driving me crazy all these years. He served in Inf Rgt 11 (17.9.14-EK2) and Inf Rgt 21 (3.10.18--EK1) but was "Leutnant dR aD" in 1915. I got the WW1 Regimental History of Bavarian IR 21 and... no mention of him. I have never been able to FIND one for IR11. MVO4X 1.8.15 (LtdR aD), black wound 9.9.18,

Rentamtsassessor Neunberg vorm Wald in 1914, Regierungsrat iR 1935 (Hindenburg Cross), Major dR zV 1943 (KVK2X).

It is frustrating to know that information exists but that it is SEALED!

Rick