Georges Guynemer meets his maker

[PFFF]

Don't Know if this helps but years ago I across a WOrld War I history which
had a photo of an Allied Pilot with the tail rudder of a German aeroplane.
Reportalby the rudder was from Kurt Wisseman's plane.
Possibly allied pilot was RENE Fonck
Possibly this was a Arch Whitehouse history.

[rammjaeger]

René Fonck did - despite the claim in his book - neither fight against nor shot down Kurt Wissemann.
It adds only to the general confusion to link Fonck to Wissemann.

[Vlaming]

the day before his death - he had some problems with his fuelpump and had to force land at De Moeren (Belgian Airfield) That's why he was not flying his usual vieux Charles (which has to be repaired) but an older Spad VII on the 11th

Wout

Good afternboon gentlemen,

Sure there were witnesses. I believed to read once an local article about a, at that time, litte boy of seven years who saw german soldiers with the remains of Guynemer before the burial.
A long time after the war his father told him that the remains he saw near their farmhouse were of a very well known french pilot called Guynemer. I look it up for you. If I don't find the article I know that "little boy's" grandson very well and I 'll ask him about that.

Guy

[Roadhog]

Hello fellow night owls, It was a common practice on on both sides of the line to call artillery barrages down on friendly planes that crash landed in 'no man's land' or behind enemy lines where they could still be observed. This was done to keep the machines from falling into enemy hands for use, evaluation or propaganda purposes. When MvR crash-landed his triplane it was visible from portions of the German line and an artillery barrage was called down on it with really miserable results (they missed!).

If Guynemer and his plane were subjected to a sustained Allied barrage, I wonder if there was much left to bury. Artillery rounds, especially point detonating high explosive can do horrible things to the human body. I spent three years in Field Artillery after OCS and saw the Army film studies on flocks of goats under artillery attack.

And yes Craig, since that study in the late 1950s the goats have refused to fight us on our terms and have chosen instead a long, protracted guerilla war. (Remember humor). VR, Roadhog, "Memento mori"

[AOK4]

Hello,

Could someone help me with scans from that article? I may have access to the old cemetery register of Rumbeke and would like to check the possibility of Guynemer being buried there.

According to the description of the German officer who found Guynemer, the plane was completely wrecked, and the body of Guynemer was found in the ground under parts of his plane.

Regards,
Jan

[retread]

Sinus,
Whatever you would like to add to the discussion along the lines you mentioned would certainly be appreciated.
Thanks

[AOK4]

Hello,

I received scans from the article from one of the forum members (many thanks!). I had thought to find anything really convincing but I didn't. I'm 99% sure Guynemer was also not buried in Rumbeke. I'll try to do a last check early November, hoping to be able to see the old cemetery register from during WWI.

Jan

[retread]

The third pilot mentioned in "Storks" was Louis Risacher (credited with 5 kills during the war). A quote from pg. 54 of the book, "Also in the area was Louis Risacher, who, according to him, had been asked to fly low down with another pilot- to attract the enemy.