LAst German Aircrews killed over Paris?

PFFF · 22 October 2005, 08:37 AM

1) Who were German Aircrew killed 16-9-1918 over PAris?
2) Who were German Aircrew killed in last Night raid over Paris and brought down near Le Bourget? (For Reference only)

frontflieger · 22 October 2005, 10:40 AM

Hi,

the following crew of Bosta 19 (Bogohl 4) was lost on 16sept1918 over Gonesse (just north of Le Bourget):

Uffz. Josef Wach (P),
Lt. Horst von Olearius (O),
Sgt. Max Zrocke (G)

... they're resting on the German Cemetary "Noyers-Pont-Maugis"... far away from the place they died??!!

Thorsten

PFFF · 22 October 2005, 01:40 PM

Thanks for Info!

De Petrowski Alexander · 6 November 2005, 03:19 PM

A lot can happen in 87 years, it is possible that the 3 German airmen have been moved from their original burial place, during one the many concentration efforts of the German version of the War Graves Commission. (Kriegsgräberfursorge)

frontflieger · 7 November 2005, 01:21 AM

Hi,

Horst von Olearius (see the image) is the only crew member I could locate via
< www.volksbund.de >...

... Perhaps the other two were already in 1918 unknown when they were burried by French authorities in Paris!?

Is a Frenchman out there who is willing to search in the French journals of those days for further information? -- Merci beaucoup!!

Thôrstèn

Rick · 7 November 2005, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by frontflieger

Is a Frenchman out there who is willing to search in the French journals of those days for further information? -- Merci beaucoup!!
Thôrstèn

This may be a rather difficult request to fullfill at the moment. I suspect most Frenchmen have their hands full with their 'friendly neighborhood Muslims'

R.

PFFF · 10 November 2005, 07:56 AM

Thanks.
Try Contacting Rosebud World War I Archive
"Death Photos" for ID of following photo listings:
"Wreckage & unbforunate crew of last German plane over Paris 16.09/18"
"Wreckage & unforunate Crew of German Plane shot down at Le Bourget"
http://www.earlyaviator.com/archive1.htm

frontflieger · 10 November 2005, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PFFF

"Wreckage & unbforunate crew of last German plane over Paris 16.09/18"
"Wreckage & unforunate Crew of German Plane shot down at Le Bourget"

Thanks for the hint - one of them is poor Horst...

Thorsten

gilles · 10 November 2005, 12:48 PM

Hello Thorsten

I don' t have access to vintage journals but I found an article about Paris bombings published in 1977 (fana #97). The author names only Olearius so I guess he is the only one who was identified by the french army.

" 2 aircrafts are shot down by AAA. An A.E.G. biplane flying at 1600m is hit. An engine fell off and the plane crashes. Among the 3 crew members, the corpse of lt Oléarius is identified. The second plane is a Gotha. It falls in Compiègne forest. Its crew escaped after burning the remains of the plane."

(in

french air service war chronology, the 1st plane is a Gotha and the 2nd a 2-seater)

gilles

frontflieger · 11 November 2005, 12:46 AM

Salut Gilles,

merci pour les info!

... It is really great, that such information can be found even today.

Thorsten