Austrian losses 1914

vikinn · 26 November 2005, 10:18 AM

Hi

I am searching added information about losses austrian aviation on Russian front in the 1914.

I only knew that 08.09.1914( ns ) Aviatik ? Flik 11 shot down by pilot Nesterov.

Cheers vikinn

De Petrowski Alexander · 26 November 2005, 03:57 PM

Look on this Site, its about the Eastern Front WW I
http://warchron.com/index.htm

Soderbaum · 27 November 2005, 04:06 AM

Hi

The A-H nachrichtenblatt do have lists of personal losses among flyers for 1914.
According to this list over 30 flyers were lost due enemy action..

However they did not published a/c losses, as far as I have seen...so it could be difficult to find specific "walk away" crashes...

Gunnar

De Petrowski Alexander · 27 November 2005, 06:01 AM

i've found this name on this site, perhaps worth a check
Leutnant Baron von Rosenthal
http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/mileston...orld/1914.html

vikinn · 27 November 2005, 06:41 AM

Hello,

Thank you for your help.

vikinn · 27 November 2005, 07:07 AM

Hello Gunnar,

Thank you for your help.
I am searching added information about these and other losses
15.08.1914 Flik 1 2 POW
16.08.1914 Flik 1 1 KIA
24.08.1914 Flik 14 1 KIA
01.09.1914 Flik 5 2 POW
08.09.1914 Flik 11 2 KIA

Cheers, Vikinn

agblume · 27 November 2005, 08:46 AM

hello vikinn, the loss of Flik 11 Lohner on 08.09.1914 by Shtabs Kapitan Petr N. Nesterov (11th KAO Nieuport IV) was by ramming (not shot down) near Zolkiev. crew of two KIA.
on 14.08.1914 (not 15.08) Flik 1 lost a Lohner B.III shot down by Russian troops at Balin, near Kameniec-Podolsk. crew of two POW.
on 16.08.1914 Flik 1 lost a Lohner B.III due to a wing fracture, not enemy action, south of "Gruhewjow." two crew killed in crash.
on 26.08.1914 (not 24.08) Flik 14 lost a Lohner B-type due to a motor defect near Lemberg (Lvov), pilot was killed in crash, observer became POW.
on 01.09.1914 Flik 5 lost a German-built Aviatik B.II shot down by Russian ground fire near Radom in Przemysl region, two crew became POW.
i hope this will assist you in your research. it's good to know that some have an interest in the Eastern Fronts. cheers, august

vikinn · 27 November 2005, 10:48 AM

Hello August,

Thank you for your help.

Cheers, vikinn

fliegertruppe · 27 November 2005, 10:56 AM

Hello vikinn, hello Forum,

I have infos about the losses on 14.august 1914.
Lohner "Pfeilflieger" Typ D (B.III)
FLIK 1 (2. Armee, Galizien)
Feldpilot Oberleutnant Hugo Schwab
Beobachter Oberleutnant Franz Kabelac.

The pilot escape in the year 1917 and was later CO of FLIK 24/D.

greeting
Reinhard

Soderbaum · 27 November 2005, 11:21 AM

Hi Vikinn

The A-H source I have gives a note that Schwab later died, but perhaps it is a mix up with the observer....?
This source also gives the date 15 Aug 14, but I think that the 14 Aug is correct...

The Lohner lost on 16 Aug 14 was piloted by Oblt Josef Flassig with Oblt x Wolf as observer.
Anyone knew the first name for Wolf...?

The A-H lossed on 26 Aug 14 is dated 24 Aug in the A-H loss list. Only the pilot Oblt Manfred Georgievic is named...
Anyone knew the name and rank of the observer..?

The Aviatik from Flik 5 lost on 1 Sep 14 was piloted by Oblt Andreas Alexay with Oblt Guido von Georgievits as observer. It is noted that the observer died later on...

The loss on 8 Sep 14 was piloted by Fw Franz Malina with Oblt Friedrich Rosenthal as observer.
I dont think that it was counted as an aerial victory by the Russian as Nesterov not is mentioned in Russian victory lists I have seen...

Gunnar