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4 December 2007, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by vb136
Dear Tom,
I found the information on the French web-site memoiredeshommes.
If you search under the headline aviators 1914-18, and type in his last name, please note the correct spelling of same, you get access to information.
Please note: these are not his complete service records, these are NOT available on-line.
He is not listed among the war dead, so I guess he survived the war. I do not have a photo of him, but this might be available from the French SHAA.
By the way, I have always been curious about the "cul" you end your posts with, what does it mean?
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Originally Posted by Froggy
Hello
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I Think "cul" mean "see you later"-But in french "cul" have
another signification that my good education dont allow to give here 
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Pour moi aussi, le mot c** est impropre.
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Originally Posted by crankcase
sounds like this thread has entered a cul-de-sac! =0)
CC
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Mates,
No offence intended, it is a drawback to my teletype days for sign off station;
Cul = See you later
Will clearify in future.
cul (see you later)
tcean7828
tom
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4 December 2007, 01:18 PM
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Hello Tom
I didnt find something else about De Kergorlay -Only an extract of a diary
which says that i accomplished a protection mission when he was in escadrille
C18 with Lt de montrichard to the benefit od sgt david et lt Dautriche 16/october /1916
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16 octobre 1916 : Mission photo - Lt Dautriche - Sur Goyencourt - protection Kergorlay et Lt de Montrichard - Rentré avec éclats multiples dans l'appareil et une blessure à la main droite par éclat d'obus - 3 jours à l'hôpital de Montdidier - Soins à l'escadrille - Permission....
What do you want to know about escadrille N 96?
I have the SHAA book"les escadrilles de l'aeronautique francaise" which give some details about the escadrille n96-I see for example that a few USA pilots was members of the escadrille
Vernon Booth Jr
Fearchar Ian Ferguson
Robert L Moore
Nathaniel Duffy
Cordialement
Bruno
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4 December 2007, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Froggy
Hello Tom
I didnt find something else about De Kergorlay -Only an extract of a diary
which says that i accomplished a protection mission when he was in escadrille
C18 with Lt de montrichard to the benefit od sgt david et lt Dautriche 16/october /1916
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16 octobre 1916 : Mission photo - Lt Dautriche - Sur Goyencourt - protection Kergorlay et Lt de Montrichard - Rentré avec éclats multiples dans l'appareil et une blessure à la main droite par éclat d'obus - 3 jours à l'hôpital de Montdidier - Soins à l'escadrille - Permission....
What do you want to know about escadrille N 96?
I have the SHAA book"les escadrilles de l'aeronautique francaise" which give some details about the escadrille n96-I see for example that a few USA pilots was members of the escadrille
Vernon Booth Jr
Fearchar Ian Ferguson
Robert L Moore
Nathaniel Duffy
Cordialement
Bruno
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Mate,
Just the usual, where they were located during this gentlemans time, and any info on him. How may victories, survived the war, what happened then, did he rejoin or remain in the French army, etc., any pictures avail on a web site about the unit.
thanks in advance
cul (see you later)
tcrean7828
tom
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4 December 2007, 10:46 PM
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Dear Tom,
Thank you very much for the explanation!
No offense taken, at least by me. I was curious about the meaning of the word.
Sincerely yours,
T N
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5 December 2007, 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Froggy
Hello
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I Think "cul" mean "see you later"-But in french "cul" have
another signification that my good education dont allow to give here 
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Thanks Froggy for airing this subject to light, you'll notice that many of us don't use this "cul" term.
Regards, FOKKERJ
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5 December 2007, 06:01 AM
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Hello tom
Albert de Kergorlay was issued from a very high and ancient French Nobility
(from 1330 !!)
He was awarded of legion d'honneur on 10.7.18 and croix de guerre with 6 citations
He was wounded at the end of the war(18/9/18) went in hospital and was sent in convalescence at Paris during 1 month just before the end of war from 28/9/18 to 24/10/18 when he was demobilized
I dont find until now anything else about him during gisd military career
His father was the Comte Jean de Kergorlay and his mother Marie Louise Carroll born in new york USA
Albert died in 1921
Before further researches I find this in a genealogy site :
RootsWeb's WorldConnect Project: RootsWeb's WorldConnect Project Global Search
May be that will be of interest for you ?
CU later
Bruno
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5 December 2007, 02:57 PM
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Hello
Some infos on De Kergorlay :
-confirmed victory on 23 december 1917, an Albatros D.V at Fresnes (Aisne); according to FASWC : ' possibly Ltn Ernst Hess (17v), jasta 19, albatros D.Va #5347, KIA Fresnes'
That same day (same mission ?) he was shot down and crash landed near front lines, unharmed.
-confirmed victory on 1 january 1918, an EA south of Billy-sur -Aisne (Aisne), shared with Raoul de la Forest Divonne
-probable victory on 3 february 1918
another source states that his plane was hit by ground fire during the spring 1918 German offensives, while straffing. He had to land near the front lines and put fire to his plane because of the advancing German troops. However I wonder if it's not a confusion with the 23 dec 1917 incident.
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Thanks Froggy for airing this subject to light
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Do you really want to air this subject to light ?
Gilles
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5 December 2007, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tcrean7828
Mates,
Does anyone have some sources on the French Lafayette Escadrille No.96? In particular Adjutant Joseph De Kergolay????
thanks for any info on this individual and any sources that I might preuse.
cul
tcrean7828
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How about someone clearing this up for me.
Was not N124 the only Lafayette Escadrille? It was named so, after Germany filed a complaint because America (at that time)was neutral. It was changed from Escadrille Americain to Lafayette Escadrille because of this complaint ,in honor of Lafayette that helped America in prior years.
I think number 96 was a French escadrille (squadron) that had nothing to do with The Lafayette Escadrille. If I am wrong ,I would like to know because I named my airfield for James McConnell, who was from my town of Carthage N.C. and one of the original founders of this unit. If I am wrong, I may be advertising some untrue information.
Thanks,
Roland Gilliam
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5 December 2007, 10:00 PM
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Hi Roland,
You're exactly right. Escadrille N124/SPA124 was the one and only 'Lafayette Escadrille'. Escadrille 96 was a French Escadrille entirely, and has nothing to do with the 'Lafayette Escadrille'.
All of the American volunteers who served in various French Escadrilles before America's entry into the war are collectively known as the Lafayette Flying Corps. There is a great deal of confusion between the Lafayette Escadrille (N124) and the LFC. As noted above, there were four Americans who flew with Esc SPA 96, and these four are counted as members of the LFC - but not the 'Lafayette Escadrille'.
Greg
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