Edward Mannock VC

TomVrille · 12 December 2007, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hans Molier

And it gets more and more interesting, because I just recieved the following mail from the City of Ballincolligonline .......... may I say everybody living locally who knows of him believe that he was born in Ballincollig. I will see if a copy of his birth certificate is available.

Greetings Hans..
Please do keep us informed of what you learn from the archives of Ballincollig. It could be, for example, that Mrs. Mannock returned home with her other children, expecting that her husband would join her later. You may have uncovered a new thread of information about one of the true heroes of the Great War!

Hans Molier · 12 December 2007, 10:51 AM

Promised, I will keep you all informed !

PfalzPflyer · 12 December 2007, 01:45 PM

I have it on good authority that, according to German records, he was never actually born. British claims to the contrary are merely unconfirmed wishful thinking.

Dean (just kidding) in Omaha

Kirk R. Lowry · 12 December 2007, 05:49 PM

It is remarkable that even the date upon which so renowned a pilot was born incites debate ... I wonder if the situation might be one of birth in one location and registration of birth in a different location?

As to the victory total, I admit to having believed that Jones simply arrived at a total of 73, but, the comments by D Filsell in the thread Publicising the Aces may inspire a change of opinion. However, were it not Jones, someone decided that Mannock was the man with the most, not Bishop given credit for 72 victories, and so must have had 73 victories. All rather bothersome when one considers that another from the United Kingdom and another from Canada, McCudden and Barker, certainly, downed more aircraft than either.

Salut!
Kirk

Hans Molier · 13 December 2007, 11:02 AM

It's remarkable that the VC Society mailed me with the message that Mannock VC was born Preston Barracks, Brighton. Even Lord Aschroft, writer of 'Victoria Cross Heroes' and the greatest VC collector in the world, writes this information in his book. But as it seems Mannock VC was born in Ballincollig.

I just can't understand why there has to be so much different information about a very simple question......, where was VC-recipient Mannock VC born ?

Graeme · 13 December 2007, 03:15 PM

To keep the pot boiling, I've put together a list of Mannock's claims I believe to have been deemed "decisive". Where possible I've quoted from the relevant RFC or RAF Communiqué and/or the 2 Brigade List of EA shot down and driven down out of control (Air 1/1580/204/81/52).

As ever, constructive comments, nit-picking etc are welcome:

Claims 1 to 16 with No 40 Sqn RFC

1. 07-May-17 09:35 Quiery-la-Motte in Nieuport A6733 Balloon In Flames

RFC Communiqué 87: An attack on German balloons was carried out by seven Nieuports of 40 Squadron. The pilots crossed the lines at about 20 feet and, as on a previous occasion, artillery put a barrage on the German trenches, while 12 other aeroplanes crossed the lines at the same time at a considerable height in order to draw the attention of anti-aircraft gunners. Seven German balloons were destroyed; three caught fire high up, two burst into flames when near the ground, and two when on the ground. The names of the pilots who took part in the attack are: 2nd Lts L L Morgan, C S Hall, C W Cudemore, H B Redler, E Mannock, J Parry and Captain W Nixon who failed to return.

2. 07-Jun-17 07:15 north of Lille in Nieuport B1552 Albatros DIII Out of Control + 25 RFC

RFC Communiqué 91: 2nd Lts A E Godfrey and E Mannock, 40 Squadron, each destroyed an HA. Lt C T Lally & 2nd Lt Williams, 25 Squadron, drove down one HA out of control and assisted in the destruction of another.

Vfw Franz Eberlein, Jasta 33, Wia [?]

3. 12-Jul-17 10:10 Avion, south of Lens in Nieuport B1682 DFW CV Captured

RFC Communiqué 96: 2nd Lt W MacLanachan, 40 Squadron, drove down an EA out of control, and 2nd Lt E Mannock of the same squadron shot down a DFW two-seater within our lines near Lens, the Observer of which was killed and the pilot taken prisoner.

Vfw Reubelt (Kia) + Vfw Hermann Johann Bottcher (Pow), Sch 12

4. 13-Jul-17 09:20 east of Sallaumines in Nieuport B1682 DFW CV Out of Control

RFC Communiqué 96: 2nd Lt E Mannock, 40 Squadron, observed three DFW two-seaters and dived at one which then fell completely out of control, falling into a mist.

? + Ltn Heinz Waltermann (Wia), FA 240(A) [?]

5. 05-Aug-17 16:00 Avion in Nieuport B3554 Albatros DV Out of Control

RFC Communiqué 100: 2nd Lt E Mannock, 40 Squadron, engaged five Albatros scouts near Henin-Liétard. He shot one down out of control but was unable to see it crash owing to the presence of other EA.

6. 12-Aug-17 15:15 Lens - Farbus in Nieuport B3554 Albatros DV Captured

RFC Communiqué 101: 2nd Lt E Mannock, 40 Squadron, observed an Albatros scout attacking one of our balloons, so engaged it and brought it down within our lines.

Ltn

Joachim von Bertrab, Jasta 30, Pow

7. 15-Aug-17 12:15 Lens in Nieuport B3554 Albatros DV Out of Control

RFC Communiqué 101: A patrol of six Nieuports of 40 Squadron engaged seven Albatros scouts and Captain A W Keen shot one down in flames and it fell through the centre of the German formation, scattering them, and then he dived at another and shot it down out of control. 2nd Lt R Hall, also 40 Squadron, attacked an Albatros scout near Lens and shot it down out of control, and it was seen to crash on the roofs of houses in Lens. Captain E Mannock of the same squadron drove down an EA out of control near Lens. The Communiqué is misleading as there were two encounters; Keen made his claims at 09:15 while Mannock and Hall made theirs at 12:15 and 12:50, respectively.

8. 15-Aug-17 19:30 north of Lens in Nieuport B3554 Albatros DV Out of Control

RFC Communiqué 101: On the evening of the 15th, a patrol of Sopwith Camels of 8 Squadron RNAS engaged four Albatros scouts, and Flight Lt R R Thornely drove one down out of control. In encounters between EA and Nieuports of 40 Squadron, Lts G Crole, H Kennedy, and 2nd Lt E Mannock each drove down an EA out of control.[Listed under 16 August following the entry for 43 Squadron].

Ltn Heinrich Brugmann, Jasta 30, (Wia, Dow 18-Aug-17) [?]
Vari-coloured with light band around fuselage

9. 17-Aug-17 10:50 north-east of Sallaumines in Nieuport B3554 DFW C Crashed

RFC Communiqué 102: A DFW was destroyed by Capt E Mannock, 40 Squadron.

Yellow, red, green and blue with a light band aft of observer's cockpit

10. 04-Sep-17 11:30 east of Lens - Liévin in Nieuport 24 B3607 DFW C Out of Control (s)

RFC Communiqué 104: Captain E Mannock, 40 Squadron, went up in search of a reported German artillery machine which he found and engaged. The Observer was seen to fall back apparently killed but the machine was not destroyed. Later in the day Capt Mannock and Sgt L A Herbert of the same squadron attacked a two-seater DFW which they shot down apparently out of control.

Vfw Eddelbuttel (Wia) + Ltn Kuhn, FA 211(A) [?]

11. 04-Sep-17 16:30 Petit-Vimy in Nieuport 24 B3607 DFW C Captured

RFC Communiqué 104: In the afternoon Capt Mannock attacked a DFW near Petit Vimy and shot it down in flames within our lines (G.68).

Uffz Georg Frischkorn (Kia) + Ltn Fritz Frech (Kia), FA 235(A)

12. 11-Sep-17 11:15 Thélus - Oppy in Nieuport 24 B3607 DFW C Out of Control

RFC Communiqué 105: Captain E Mannock, 40 Squadron, attacked two two-seater machines over Thélus and shot one down which fell out of control.

13. 20-Sep-17 17:35 Hulloch in Nieuport 24 B3607 DFW C Out of Control

RFC Communiqué 106: In the evening Captain E Mannock, 40 Squadron, observed a two-seater EA east of Lens so climbed into the sun, then dived and shot it down out of control.

Uffz Kalbreiher (Wia) + Ltn Arthur Beauchamp (Kia), FA 240(A) [?]

14. 23-Sep-17 16:45 near Oppy in Nieuport 23 B3617 Two-seater In Flames

RFC Communiqué 106: 2nd Lt W MacLanachan and Captain E Mannock, 40 Squadron, each destroyed an EA.

15. 25-Sep-17 15:10 Sallaumines in Nieuport 24 B3607 Rumpler C Out of Control

RFC Communiqué 107: Captain E Mannock, 40 Squadron, drove down another [Albatros scout] which is also believed to have fallen out of control.

Vfw Karl Meckes (Wia, Dow 27-Sep-17) + Ltn Paul Friedrich Otto (Kia), FA 224(A), [?]

16. 01-Jan-18 11:35 Fampoux in SE5a B665 Hannover CLIII Captured + 8 RNAS

RFC Communiqué 121: Flight Cdr R Compston and Flight Sub-Lt A J Dixon, 8 Squadron RNAS, drove down an EA scout apparently out of control, and in another patrol Flight Cdr Compston fought and drove down another. This EA was then attacked by Capt E Mannock, 40 Squadron, and crashed in our lines at Fampoux.

Vfw Fritz Korbacher (Kia) + Ltn Wilhelm Klein (Kia), FA 288(A)b

Part 2 to follow

Graeme · 13 December 2007, 03:19 PM

Claims 17 to 52 with No 74 Sqn RAF

17. 12-Apr-18 08:25 east of Merville in SE5a D278 Albatros DV Crashed

RAF Communiqué 2: Capt E Mannock, 74 Sqn, after one or two pilots of his patrol had engaged a hostile machine without result, fired a burst into it. It then crashed east of Carvin. He fired a long burst with both guns at 30 yards into another EA which went down and crashed near the first machine.

2 Brigade Summary: MERVILLE. OP engaged hostile OP at about 12,000 feet and Capts Mannock and Dolan each shot down one.

18. 12-Apr-18 14:40 south of Lille in SE5a D278 Albatros DV Crashed (s)

RAF Communiqué 2: Capt E Mannock, 74 Sqn, after one or two pilots of his patrol had engaged a hostile machine without result, fired a burst into it. It then crashed east of Carvin. He fired a long burst with both guns at 30 yards into another EA which went down and crashed near the first machine.

2 Brigade Summary: LILLE. “A” Flight. OP engaged 2 Albatros Scouts and all fired at one EA which fell out of control and crashed.

Uffz Schoning + Ltn Beuttler, FA 32, Kia
Black and yellow

The patrol comprised Mannock, Howe, Clements, Dolan and Roxburgh-Smith

19. 23-Apr-18 18:10 east of Merville in SE5a D278 Pfalz DIII Crashed

RAF Communiqué 4: Capt E Mannock, 74 Sqn, attacked the rear machine of a formation of EA scouts; an explosion was observed in the EA pilot's seat and the machine turned upside down and descended vertically, emitting volumes of smoke, and was seen to strike the ground east of Merville.

2 Brigade Summary: No entry [but there are no entries for any squadrons for the period 22 to 24 April.]

20. 29-Apr-18 11:40 S Dickebusch Lake in SE5a D278 Albatros DV Broke Up

RAF Communiqué 5: Capt E Mannock, 74 Sqn, fired about 40 rounds at close range into an EA scout which immediately burst into flames and was observed to fall in pieces.

2 Brigade Summary: Patrol attacked 10 Albatros scouts south of Dickebusch Lake. Capt Mannock fired 40 rounds at 1 EA end on. EA burst into flames and broke up in the air. Confirmed by two other pilots of formation.

Ltn Ludwig Vortmann (Kia), Jasta 2 [?]

21. 30-Apr-18 14:40 south-east of Dickebusch Lake in SE5a D278 Halberstadt CL Captured (s)

RAF Communiqué 5: Lt H E Dolan, 74 Sqn, attacked an EA two-seater, which he forced to land in our lines near Dickebusch. [Although not mentioned in the Communiqué, Mannock had also attacked this machine).

2 Brigade Summary: EA flying west over Dickebusch Lake. Lt Dolan fired 70 rounds from rear at close range. EA engine stopped and it crashed down at Onderdom near our lines.

Vfw Speer (Pow) + Flgr Anton Zimmermann (Pow, Dow 1-May-18), Sch 28b

More his claims with 74 Sqn to follow:

Graeme · 13 December 2007, 03:20 PM

22. 03-May-18 18:55 south of Merville in SE5a D278 LVG C Crashed (s)

RAF Communiqué 5: A patrol of 74 Sqn engaged an EA two-seater and all fired at it from close range, whereupon the EA went down in a spin and was seen to crash. The following officers took part in the combat: Capt E Mannock, Lt H E Dolan, Lt A C Kiddie and Lt H G Clements.

2 Brigade Summary: Albatros 2/str south of MERVILLE 6.55 pm. Patrol engaged EA at 3,000 feet and all members of patrol fired several hundred rounds into EA which spun into the ground.

Uffz Fritz Schoning (Kia) + Ltn Fritz Beuttler (Kia), FA32

23. 06-May-18 09:20 Gheluvelt in SE5a D278 Fokker DrI Crashed

RAF Communiqué 6: Capt E Mannock, 74 Sqn, engaged one EA triplane and forced it into a spin. He followed the EA down, firing short bursts and the EA finally turned on its back and crashed.

2 Brigade Summary: GHELUVELT 9.20 am. Attacked formation of 4 Triplanes & 1 Alb over DICKEBUSCH Lake. Dived into 1 Triplane, firing short bursts. EA turned on its back and crashed at 28 0 4.

Ltn Gunther Derlin, Jasta 20, Kia

24. 11-May-18 17:40 north-east of Armentières in SE5a C1112 Pfalz DIII Crashed (s)

RAF Communiqué 6: Capt E Mannock, 74 Sqn, dived on to the rear machine of a formation of EA scouts and drove it down to a height of 6,000 feet, firing as occasion offered. The EA was seen to burst into flames.

2 Brigade Summary: NE ARMENTIERES 5.50. Dived on Pfalz Scout and fired bursts from 14,000 to 6,000 feet, when EA burst into flames.

Ltn Oskar Aeckerle, Jasta 47, Kia
Silver and black; red nose

Shared with Dolan ?

25. 12-May-18 18:20 north of Wulverghem in SE5a C1112 Albatros DV Crashed

RAF Communiqué 6: Capt E Mannock, 74 Sqn, with his patrol, encountered a formation of eight EA scouts; he attacked the rear machine at close range and at right angles, and the EA side-slipped underneath him and collided with another enemy scout, both enemy machines falling to pieces in the air.

2 Brigade Summary: WULVERGHEM 6.20 pm. Engaged formation of 8 EA fired into one Albatros Scout which side-slipped and collided with another EA both EA breaking up in air. Fired 200 rounds into Pfalz Scout which fell vertically and crashed.

Brown and black; collided with the other Albatros.

26. 12-May-18 18:20 north of Wulverghem in SE5a C1112 Albatros DV Crashed

RAF Communiqué 6: Capt E Mannock, 74 Sqn, with his patrol, encountered a formation of eight EA scouts; he attacked the rear machine at close range and at right angles, and the EA side-slipped underneath him and collided with another enemy scout, both enemy machines falling to pieces in the air.

2 Brigade Summary: WULVERGHEM 6.20 pm. Engaged formation of 8 EA fired into one Albatros Scout which side-slipped and collided with another EA both EA breaking up in air. Fired 200 rounds into Pfalz Scout which fell vertically and crashed.

Brown and black; collided with the other Albatros.

27. 12-May-18 18:20 north of Wulverghem in SE5a C1112 Pfalz DIII Crashed

RAF Communiqué 6: Capt Mannock then engaged another EA scout from behind and fired a long burst into it from both guns; the EA went down vertically and was seen to dive into the ground.

2 Brigade Summary: WULVERGHEM 6.20 pm. Engaged formation of 8 EA fired into one Albatros Scout which side-slipped and collided with another EA both EA breaking up in air. Fired 200 rounds into Pfalz Scout which fell vertically and crashed.

28. 16-May-18 11:10 south-west of Houthulst Forest in SE5a C1112 ? Pfalz DIII In Flames

RAF Communiqué 7: Capt E Mannock, 74 Sqn, fired about 40 rounds at one EA scout which went down in a vertical dive and broke to pieces in the air.

2 Brigade Summary: SW Houthulst Forest 11 am. Patrol dived on 6 EA fired 400 rounds at EA which dived vertically and broke up in the air. Confirmed by another pilot of formation.

Silver and black

29. 17-May-18 11:20 south of Bailleul in SE5a D278 Pfalz DIII Crashed

RAF Communiqué 7: Capt E Mannock, 74 Sqn, attacked the rear machine of a formation of EA scouts and fired a long burst from both guns into it, and the EA spun down out of control. Capt Mannock was then attacked by another EA and forced to spin away, but 210 Sqn confirm the first EA attacked by Capt Mannock as having crashed in flames.

2 Brigade Summary: S of BAILLEUL 11.20 am. Dived on EA and fired long bursts. EA fell out of control and was observed to burst into flames by patrol of No 210.

30. 17-May-18 14:30 north-east of Ypres in SE5a D278 Albatros C Crashed

RAF Communiqué 7: Later in the day Capt Mannock observed an EA two-seater crossing our lines near Ypres. He climbed north and then east and approached the EA at which he fired approximately 200 rounds at close range during a fight which lasted about one minute, the EA going down alternately diving and spinning. At about 4,000 feet the EA burst into flames and was seen to crash and burn itself out on the ground.

2 Brigade Summary: NE YPRES 2.30 pm. Observed EA crossing our lines. Climbed into sun, then dived on to EA firing 200 rounds at close range. EA burst into flames and crashed in No Man’s Land. Confirmed by other members of patrol.

31. 18-May-18 08:25 Steenwerck in SE5a D278 Albatros C Crashed

RAF Communiqué 7: Capt E Mannock, 74 Sqn, engaged an EA two-seater at right angles, firing a burst of 40 rounds into it. The EA went down in a vertical dive and crashed near Steenwerck, and burst into flames on hitting the ground.

2 Brigade Summary: In flames STEENWERCK 8.25 am.

Ltn Karl Fischer (Kia) + Ltn Georg Pitz (Kia), FA 19

32. 21-May-18 09:20 La Couronne in SE5a D278 Hannover CLIII Crashed

RAF Communiqué 8: A patrol of 74 Sqn encountered six Pfalz Scouts, upon whom they dived, shooting down five of them – of which Maj K L Caldwell destroyed one, Capt Mannock three, and Capt W E Young one. Capt Mannock also destroyed another EA earlier that day.

2 Brigade Summary: Crashed S of Vieux Berquin 9.25 am. Confirmed by patrol.

Gfr Walter Menzel (Kia) + Ltn Hermann Steinmeyer (Kia), FA 9w
Mottled green

33. 21-May-18 19:00 Hollebeke in SE5a D278 Pfalz DIII Broke Up

RAF Communiqué 8: A patrol of 74 Sqn encountered six Pfalz Scouts, upon whom they dived, shooting down five of them – of which Maj K L Caldwell destroyed one, Capt Mannock three, and Capt W E Young one. Capt Mannock also destroyed another EA earlier that day.

2 Brigade Summary: 1 Broke up in air, 1 crashed near HOLLEBEKE 7 pm. Confirmed by 2 other pilots and 2nd Corps “G”.

Vfw Hans Schorn, Jasta 16, Kia [?]
Mottled black

34. 21-May-18 19:00 Hollebeke in SE5a D278 Pfalz DIII Crashed

RAF Communiqué 8: A patrol of 74 Sqn encountered six Pfalz Scouts, upon whom they dived, shooting down five of them – of which Maj K L Caldwell destroyed one, Capt Mannock three, and Capt W E Young one. Capt Mannock also destroyed another EA earlier that day.

2 Brigade Summary: 1 Broke up in air, 1 crashed near HOLLEBEKE 7 pm. Confirmed by 2 other pilots and 2nd Corps “G”.

Dark coloured

35. 21-May-18 19:05 south of Hollebeke in SE5a D278 Pfalz DIII Out of Control

RAF Communiqué 8: A patrol of 74 Sqn encountered six Pfalz Scouts, upon whom they dived, shooting down five of them – of which Maj K L Caldwell destroyed one, Capt Mannock three, and Capt W E Young one. Capt Mannock also destroyed another EA earlier that day.

2 Brigade Summary: 1 Broke up in air, 1 crashed near HOLLEBEKE 7 pm. Confirmed by 2 other pilots and 2nd Corps “G”. [The summary specifically mentions three Pfalz scouts but shows only those “destroyed”]

Silver coloured

36. 22-May-18 18:15 Fromelles in SE5a D278 Pfalz DIII Out of Control

At about this time, out of control claims ceased to be reported in the Communiqués.

37. 26-May-18 19:40 south of Bailleul in SE5a D278 Albatros DV Out of Control

38. 26-May-18 19:50 south of Bailleul in SE5a D278 Albatros DV In Flames

2 Brigade Summary: Crashed S BAILLEUL 7.40 pm. Confirmed by 2 other pilots.

Green fuselage, black tail

39. 29-May-18 19:40 north-east of Armentières in SE5a C6468 Albatros DV Crashed

2 Brigade Summary: Crashed NE ARMENTIERES 7.25 pm. Confirmed by another Pilot.

Slate blue

40. 29-May-18 20:05 north-east of Armentières in SE5a C6468 Albatros DV Out of Control

41. 31-May-18 19:40 north of Wytschaete in SE5a C6468 Pfalz DIII Out of Control

Grey and black

More of his claims with 74 Sqn to follow:

Graeme · 13 December 2007, 03:21 PM

42. 01-Jun-18 16:25 Estaires in SE5a C6468 Pfalz DIII Out of Control

Ltn

Paul Billik, Jasta 52, Wia [?]

43. 01-Jun-18 16:30 Estaires in SE5a C6468 Pfalz DIII Broke up

2 Brigade Summary: 2 Pfalz Scouts. 1 broke up in the air, 1 in flames ESTAIRES 4.25 pm.

Ltn d R Wilhelm Saint-Mont, Jasta 52, Kia [?]

44. 01-Jun-18 16:35 Estaires in SE5a C6468 Pfalz DIII In Flames

2 Brigade Summary: 2 Pfalz Scouts. 1 broke up in the air, 1 in flames ESTAIRES 4.25 pm.

45. 02-Jun-18 15:40 south of Kemmel Hill in SE5a C6468 Pfalz DIII Out of Control

Ltn Johann Dunkelberg (Kia), Jasta 58 [?]
Dark with a white tail

46. 06-Jun-18 15:40 east of Ypres in SE5a C6468 ? Fokker DVII Crashed

[Unclear whether he was part of the patrol that claimed a Pfalz scout crashed west of Roulers at 19:20 on 6 June; “A” flight was certainly in the area – see below:]

47. 06-Jun-18 19:45 west of Roulers in SE5a C6468 ? Pfalz DIII Crashed (s)

Shared with Kiddie, Young and Clements

48. 09-Jun-18 08:05 south of Kemmel Hill in SE5a C6468 Albatros C Out of Control (s)

Shared with Clements and Kiddie

49. 09-Jun-18 08:10 south of Kemmel Hill in SE5a C6468 Albatros C Destroyed (s)

2 Brigade Summary: Capt Young & Capt Mannock, Albatros 2-seater Crashed S KEMMEL HILL 8.10 am.

50. 16-Jun-18 07:45 south of Zillebeke Lake in SE5a C8845 Pfalz DIII Crashed

2 Brigade Summary: Crashed S ZILLEBEKE LAKE 7.45 am.

51. 16-Jun-18 07:45 south of Zillebeke Lake in SE5a C8845 Pfalz DIII Out of Control

52. 17-Jun-18 09:45 Armentières in SE5a C8845 Halberstadt CL Crashed

2 Brigade Summary: Albatros 2-seater crashed ARMENTIERES 9.45 am.

Silver coloured

Claims 53 to 62 with No 85 Sqn RAF:

53. 07-Jul-18 20:20 Doulieu in SE5a E1295 Fokker DVII Crashed

2 Brigade Summary: Crashed DOULIEU 8.20 pm

Black and white with a red body

54. 07-Jul-18 20:20 Doulieu in SE5a E1295 Fokker DVII Crashed

Black fuselage, white tail, white swastika on fuselage

55. 14-Jul-18 08:35 east of Merville in SE5a E1295 Fokker DVII Crashed

2 Brigade Summary: Crashed N of MERVILLE 8.35 am. Confirmed by another pilot.

56. 14-Jul-18 09:05 north of Merville in SE5a E1295 Halberstadt CL Captured (Forced to land?)

57. 19-Jul-18 08:23 Merville in SE5a E1295 Albatros C Crashed

2 Brigade Summary: In flames, MERVILLE, 8.23 am. Confirmed by patrol.

Uffz Alfred Hartmann (Kia) + Ltn Eberhard von Sydow (Kia), FA 7

58. 20-Jul-18 11:17 north-east of La Bassee in SE5a E1295 Albatros C Crashed

2 Brigade Summary: Crashed E of LA BASSEE 11.17 am. Confirmed by another pilot.

Sgt Adolf Raths (Kia) + Ltn Gros (Kia), FA 7 [?]

59. 20-Jul-18 12:15 south of Steenwerck in SE5a E1295 Fokker DVII Out of Control

60. 20-Jul-18 12:15 south of Steenwerck in SE5a E1295 Fokker DVII Out of Control

61. 22-Jul-18 09:25 Armentières in SE5a E1295 Fokker DrI Broke Up

2 Brigade Summary: Broke up in the air ARMENTIERES 9.52 am. Confirmed by another pilot. [Time a typo?]

Mottled green and brown; tail shot off

62. 26-Jul-18 05:30 Lestrem in SE5a E1295 DFW CV In Flames (s)

RAF Communiqué 17: Lt D C Inglis and Maj E Mannock, 85 Sqn, attacked an enemy two-seater, which they shot down in flames. On returning at 200 feet, Lt Inglis saw Maj Mannock’s machine shot down from the ground, and his own machine was hit in the petrol tank, but he succeeded in landing five yards behind our front lines.

2 Brigade Summary: Lt Inglis, 2-seater in flames LESTREM 5.30 am.

Vfw Josef Hein (Kia) + Ltn Ludwig Schopf (Kia), FA 292(A)b

Graeme

Hans Molier · 15 December 2007, 02:08 AM

Dear Graeme, thank you very much for this information. So according to you Mannock VC had 62 victories during his career ?