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Old 30 April 2008, 11:52 AM   #21 (permalink)
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A Few More...

William Faulkner THE great southern author of the 20th Century who wrote "A Fable," "Soldier's Pay" and "the Sound and the Fury" served in the RAF during the war.

General John "Blackjack" Pershing commander of black cavalry troopers in the 10th Cavalry and chaser of Poncho Villa. Commanded US forces in France.

General Henry "Hap" Arnold served in the fledgling American Air Service.

General Leonard Wood trained the 89th Infantry Division here at Fort Riley, Kansas, but President Wilson being a Democrat, feared that Wood, a Republican, might become a war hero and return home to run against him for president in 1920. So Wood was forced to remain here at Riley while his unit shipped out. He was then given command of the 10th Infantry Division that was forming at Camp Funston. It was being deployed when the war ended.

I also think that F. Scott Fitzgerald, who wrote the "Great Gatsby" joined the military but was stationed in Canada and never saw combat. VR, Scott
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Old 30 April 2008, 07:02 PM   #22 (permalink)
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A couple names off the top of my head that I didn't see in the list, yet:

Vernon Castle - famous with wife Irene as dancers

Christy Mathewson - Inaugural member of Major League Baseball's Hall of Fame, and one of the greatest baseball players of all time, Mathewson was a pitcher who still ranks 3rd all time in wins with 373. Mathewson enlisted in 1918 and was a Captain in the Chemical Warfare Service. He was gassed in a training incident, contracted tuberculosis, and died in 1925.

Ty Cobb - Another inaugural member of Major League Baseball's Hall of Fame, second all time in hits, also served in the Chemical Warfare Service.

Two more baseball Hall of Famers were also in the CWS - Branch Rickey and George Sisler.

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Old 30 April 2008, 07:47 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Another aviator, Georges Carpentier, was a famous boxer in Europe before WWI. He attempted to take the heavyweight world title from Jack Dempsey in 1921, but was unsuccessful.

Fiorella LaGuardia was a member of the US House of Representatives before his service in WWI, was later a three time Mayor of New York City, and of course, had an airport named after him.

King George VI (from 1936-1952) served in the Royal Navy, and eventually transferred to the RAF.

And we shouldn't forget Hobey Baker, hockey Hall of Famer, whose name graces the trophy awarded each year to the best college hockey player in the USA.

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Old 2 May 2008, 11:16 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Benito Mussolini (Ita) the latter Duce, who wounded by a blast in 1917

Miklós Horthy (Hun) the latter Hungarian Regent, who wounded during the battle of Otranto in 1917 and become later the last CinC of the K. u. k. Navy.

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Old 9 May 2008, 06:08 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Robert Loraine, a british actor. He had a pilot license from 21 June 1910 but was rejected as a pilot. SO he became observer with No.3 Squadron and 1915 a flight commander with No.5 squadron.

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Old 11 May 2008, 10:50 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Oswald Mosley Pilot RFC later founded and the British Union of Fascists.

Captain Wedgwood Ben Middlesex Yeomanry & RFC RAF, whilst serving in the Houses of Parliment (Laobour Party) in WW1 he joined the RFC and fought in Italy amongst other places, returned to Parilment after the war.

W E Johns RFC and author of the Biggles series of books.
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Old 11 May 2008, 11:23 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Notable persons who served in Great war

OK, here goes. It took me about 20 min. to come up with my list, and about 2 hours to cross check it .By this I mean:
1. Who was the Canadian Communist who graduated in 1917, and did blood banking the Spanish Civil War, and then died in China? I can't remember his name? And what about that physicist who should have gotten a Nobel---Lise something or other. Etc.
2. Didn't Lee Strasberg serve in WW1? No, he was 17. Too young. Etc.
3. Paul Ehrlich was too old, died in 1915, and Karl Landsteiner spent the war in a lab working on successful blood typing and transfusions. Bad for the allies.
4. FYI F. Scott Fitzgerald was fired up to go overseas, but was stationed in Montgomery, Alabama, met Zelda Sayer, and American literature was changed forever.(Personal Note: Having been educated and lived in the American deep South, I have seen enough Fitzgerald-type characters to last a lifetime. The man knew of what he wrote, and I prefer Hemingway.) Fitzgerald was never stationed in Canada. Faulkner was in Canada, and never made it overseas.
5. Since G.W. Pabst made that film Kameradschaft, surely he was in the military? Nope, he made films for the duration.
6. How does one categorize this list? By type of service? By gender? Nationality? Continent?
7. Would it not be worthwhile to list those who did not serve, such as Franz Kafka, and why? Or Nikita Khruschev? Or Pasternak? J.J.R. Macleod? Anyone know what Bert Collip (sp?)did?
Yikes!!!! Here goes. Please forgive any repetition. And poor spelling.
8. After you compile the lists you might consider playing WW1 6 degrees of separation.

AMERICANS

1. And the "Got in by the Skin of His Teeth" award goes to the future Admiral Hyman Rickover who entered service at Annapolis in 1918, and served 63 years. It was the longest US naval commission ever. Yeah Ricky!
2. Chester Nimitz, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Omar Bradley, "Doug Out Doug" MacArthur. George C. Patton, George C. Marshal, Clair L. Chennault, and my favorite WW2 general Joseph W. Stillwell. Alan Seegar poet, and Pete's uncle. Served in French Foreign Leigon. KIA
3. Amelia Earhardt, Nurses' aid and VAD in Toronto.
4.. Joseph von Sternberg, US Army signal Corps.
5. Ludwig Bemmelmans, journalist, author, and creator of Madeline. (Yes, I know that Madeline is a girl thing.)

Canadians

1. Norman Bethune, same med school class as Fred Banting, and 4 years ahead of Billy Bishop in High School 2. John McCrae, artillery officer, pathologist, surgeon, med school professor, poet, writer, Renaissance man.

Brits.
1. Vera Britton, Edith Clavel, Florence Farmbourgh. All were nurses in different theatres. Britton and Farmbourgh wrote about their experiences. About Clavel: the Germans had every right to do what the did, but it was a really stupid move. Much better to have used her skills.
2. Wilfred Owen poet, painter and poet Isaac Rosenberg, Edward Thomas poet, reviewer, editor. Thomas joined the Artist's Rifles. Poet Rupert Brook. None survived.
3. B. Liddel Hart. Military journalist, writer.
4. Siegfreid Sassoon. Poet, writer. Survived with shell shock.
5. The future Duke of Windsor.
6. Max Horton, submarine commander. The Germans called the Baltic, the Horton Sea.
7.. H. H. Munroe, AKA Saki. Journalist, short story writer. I adore his work. Always have since high school. Last words were "Put that bloody cigarette out." Killed by sniper. Another good reason not to smoke.

Aussies
1. Sister Eiizabeth(?) Kenney, Nurse. Inventor of Kenney Packs.

French.
1. Marie and Irene Curie, set up mobile x-ray machines.
2. Alfred Dreyfus, Lieutenant colonel, commanded ammunition column.

Austria -Hungary
1. Imre Nagy, POW in Russia ,escaped. Hungarian PM. Hanged by Russians 1958. Probably was not part of firing squad that killed the Romanovs at Ekaterinberg.
2. Bela Kun, muckraker, bad economist, commintern op. Commissar.
3. Egon Schiele, artist. (One of my favorites.) Died of influenza, Halloween 1918. His 6 months pregnant wife Edith died as well.
4. Oskar Kokoschka, artist, poet, playwright.
5. Fritz Lang. Director.
6. Kurt Schuschnigg. Future Chancellor.
7. Lise Meitner, nurse, physicist.
8. Mina Patcher, nurse. Editor "In Memory's Kitchen" Died in Theresienstadt of starvation .
9. Michael Curtiz, Infantry. Director Casablanca.
10. The future German Professor Sokol at Stanford. U-boat commander. I have to check with my dad about spelling, and first name.

Germans

1. Edith Stein, nurse, worked typhus ward, military hospital, and OR. Member of Prussian Society for Women's Sufferage. Catholic convert. Murdered, Auschwitz.
2. Rabbi Leo Baeck, German Army Chaplin.
3. Berthold Brecht, med student. Worked in Army Hospital, 1918.
4. Gerhard Domagk. Med school drop out. Wounded 1914. Worked in cholera hospital, Russia. Went back to med school after war. Nobel Prize in 1939 for sulfa drugs. Hitler would not let him accept it.
5. Heinz Guderian, future general.
6. Lothar von Arnauld de la Periere,top German U-boat Ace.
7. Martin Niemoller, u-boat ace, future pastor, resistance fighter.

Russian

1. Admiral Kolchuk. Polar Explorer. The Russian answer to Peary, Cooke(sp.?), Scott, Shackelton, Nansen, and Amundsen. Black sea fleet. Specialized in sinking Turkish colliers. Made the Turks very unhappy. White Russian leader. Good at sea, not so good on land. Headed Omsk government. Executed 1920. I understand that the Russians have made a film of life that will be released this year.
2. The future Dr. Altschul (sp?). Russian midshipman, highest enlisted rank in Russian Navy. Fled to France. Joined French navy as a midshipman, lowest officer rank. Met wealthy American and fell in love. Yes, it was a genuine love match. She sent him to med school, and he became head of the internal medicine department at UCSF. Taught, and mentored many US physicians, among them Michael Shimkin, White Russian refugee.

Turkey
And speaking of Turks, Kemal Pasha, future Kemal Ataturk.
Hope this helps. What is the project? Darn, I forgot the future Marshal Pilsudski of Poland. If you need more, I will consult with my father. Unlike me, he really does know everything. Jenny. PS, please post this for all to see if I accidentally sent it as a personal e-mail. Thanks .It is after midnight, and I am turning into a pumpkin.
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And for Italy all this poets/writers

Gabriele D'annunzio
Filippo Tommaso Marinetti (as great part of the FUTURISTI)
Giuseppe Ungaretti (as soldier on french front)

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Old 13 May 2008, 10:50 AM   #29 (permalink)
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People Who Served In Ww1

Dear Mr. Hill or is it Pete?,
I sent you a post a few days ago. I will edit it today as I need to clean up some spelling and grammar. Could you tell us what you are looking to do? Obviously, you want folks who served in the military. What about civilian intelligence? Nurses? People who left their civilian jobs to provide services for the military? What about potential soldiers deemed too important to release for service? Do you want categories? Here are some more people:
1. Charley Best , artillery sergeant, made it to the UK when the war ended.
2. Victor Klemperer
3. Otto Frank
4. Paul Poirot, French designer. He closed up his fashion house to serve the military by streamlining uniform production. He went broke during the war, and never recovered. Died in obscurity in 1944.
As a designer he is pretty much forgotten, as he was over shadowed by Chanel. However he was famous for as he said "freeing the waist and shackling the feet." He dispensed with the corset, and invented the hobble skirt. The skirt was a trend among fashionistas, such as my paternal grand mother, although I doubt she got rid of her corsets at least for daytime wear.
5. Alfred Eisenstaedt. Native of East Prussia, raised in Berlin. Severely wounded Flanders, 9 April,1918. Only survivor of his artillery battery. Walked with a severe limp for the rest of his life.
6. Ernst Ludwig Kirchner, German expressionist.
7. Ferdinand Foch.
8. Felix Yusapov. He had a positively lovely war. He looked smashing in uniform, and managed to stay posted at a military academy for the duration. One might say that the only man he was responsible for killing while in service was Rasputin. The rest is history.
9. Reginald Wingate British High Commissioner for Egypt.
10. The future Admiral Donitz, who owed his to Chester Nimitz .
11. Baron Gottfreid von Banfield, the Eagle of Triest. Gregory Peck could have played him in a film. Highest scoring Austrian naval ace. Imprisoned by the Italians after the war. Married another impoverished aristocrat. Immigrated to UK. Became a draftsman in Newcastle. Raised family. His son became a prominent British classical composer. At age 84 he was running the French consulate in Triest.

It almost a given that nearly everyone who made it to General and its equivilence by WW2 served in WW1. Try look under such topics as "British Admirals, WW2", or "Russian Generals, WW2", etc.

You might try looking under such headings as "Harvard Men WW1", or "Women WW1".

Try spartacus.schoolnet.com.It had a section on women and the war..
Check 1914-18 war - Art of the First World War. "Art of the first World War".
Look at "Famous Jews International". famous.heebz.com

I was wondering about the artist Ernst Dryden. His dates 1883-1938, are right, but I couldn't find anything on him.
Good luck. Jenny

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I remember a C&C obituary (must've been '71) saying that A-H actor Paul Lukas had flown in TGW but there's no reference in the IMDB or Wiki entries.
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