Another Voss question - can't help it - Page 3

Albatros_Ace · 26 August 2008, 09:32 PM

exactly

Bushrod · 27 August 2008, 01:43 PM

Wouldn't Voss still be there? Was his body recovered/reburied? I've read that his remains were buried by some Brits, but that the area was heavily shelled and the grave lost. Is that correct?

redintheskies · 27 August 2008, 02:26 PM

his body is now buried at the langemark german war cemetery, which has many sections of mass graves. for example, a mass grave that contains 24,917 soldiers, of which 7,977 remains are unidentified. the 1 that voss is buried at is that 1, with 10,143 other ww1 soldiers. it's amazing, really...check out voss's grave pictures on this website, it has where his name is.

Regulus · 27 August 2008, 03:01 PM

There's as good as no chance that Voss rests at Langemark. The stones there should be seen as a memorial to the missing as well.

He may be there, but probably was burried in the area of his aircraft near Plum Farm.

The metal detector is as good as of no use, we are in the middle of the former frontlines, it's packed with metal debris of all kinds. This is not going to be an easy one, never expected it to be.

redintheskies · 27 August 2008, 06:48 PM

let me quote this website, actually comrade: Werner Voss - The Aerodrome - Aces and Aircraft of World War I

Cemetery: Kameradengrab, Langemark German Cemetery

tengew · 27 August 2008, 07:29 PM

my question is ..... the area that he crashed is it a farm now? or is it still unused fields... if it is a farm now well how many times have the soil been plowed and turned with the chunks of metal pulled and disposed of

Regulus · 27 August 2008, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by redintheskies

let me quote this website, actually comrade: Werner Voss - The Aerodrome - Aces and Aircraft of World War I

Cemetery: Kameradengrab, Langemark German Cemetery

And there's a number of other very good sources saying that he isn't there.

Even the German Volksbund itself has no proof that he's burried there. Not even a reason to believe that he might be.

See also a number of old discussions we already had on the forum.

We have to consider the fact that it took a month before the British were able to get to the wreck and remove the fuselage etc from it. Before it was to dangerous. Before 31 July this area was the frontline, after 20 september it was just behind the lines, and 20 September should ring a bell concerning the battle of 3rd Ypres.

Best case scenario is that Voss went into a mass grave close to his plane, other sources say he's buried next to it.

Tengew, no unused fields here in Flanders, agriculture is very intensieve. So it probably is the situation you feared for...

tcrean7828 · 27 August 2008, 10:26 PM

Mates,
The best guess that I have for you is that

Werner Voss is still out there where his plane came to rest and his name is on the memorial to signify that he was a causality of war. I have not read or seen anthing of the contrary that he is buried in the mass grave or that his body was recovered from the crash site area after the war.

Interesting note is that Rhys Davids, the ace that shot him down, grave is most probably less that 5 miles from where Werner Voss rests. Rhys Davids grave was never found as well.

All of these questions and more in my upcoming book.

ttfn

tcrean7828

tom

P.S. Glad to see so much interest in Werner Voss.

tengew · 28 August 2008, 12:04 AM

the metal bits have been sold for scrap years ago..... as for the body didnt that area get shelled heavy..................ashes to ashes he is probably dust

tcrean7828 · 28 August 2008, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tengew

the metal bits have been sold for scrap years ago..... as for the body didnt that area get shelled heavy..................ashes to ashes he is probably dust

Mate,
From what I have been able to find out via aerial photo's, as well as some from the ground - it looked like parts of the Moon or rather the luner landscape.

ttfn

tcrean7828

tom