Another Voss question - can't help it

[Regulus]

Tom,

Have you been at the crash site area ? If you need anything concerning photo's of it today let me know.

As you mention, and also my guess, Voss is there where he crashed.

For those who are not convinced :
Just read the account for 3rd Ypres in that area, and all will come clear I think.

Rhys Davids is also on my list BTW.

I'm not actually hoping to find their bodies, but it would already be great to be able to identify the rather exact crash sites of both men.

[redintheskies]

nothing is ever certain about where voss is buried though. besides which...why says he is buried in 1 place and not at the crash sight? surely they moved him?

well, probably not. maybe propaganda and a "homecoming". who knows? what's certain is that he was shot down in a great battle, crashed and turned up to be 1 of the greatest aces of the war. end of story.

[tcrean7828]

Originally Posted by Regulus

Tom,

Have you been at the crash site area ? If you need anything concerning photo's of it today let me know.

As you mention, and also my guess, Voss is there where he crashed.

For those who are not convinced :
Just read the account for 3rd Ypres in that area, and all will come clear I think.

Rhys Davids is also on my list BTW.

I'm not actually hoping to find their bodies, but it would already be great to be able to identify the rather exact crash sites of both men.

Mate,
I would love to have some photo's of the crash site as it is today, as well as Rhys Davids if that is possible. (N,S,W,E shots if possible)

thanks for the help and will include them in my book with full credits to you for the assistance.

ttfn

tcrean7828

tom

[Regulus]

Tom,

No problem, I'm in the area 4 or 5 times next month's for several events.
Unveiling of a new VC memorial for Henry Nicholas at Polygon Wood, the Scots in 3rd Ypres Memorial at Frezenberg, Passendale 90 years of Liberation, and two more about which I can't say anything on the moment yet. At least not publicly.

Concerning the Rhys-Davids crash site, I'm not that close yet at all...

Best from Johan

[tcrean7828]

Mate,
Thanks, will await your reply.

tcrean7828@yahoo.com is my e-mail address to send pic's when you get them.

ttfn

tcrean7828

tom

[Roadhog]

Dear Forum mates, I have followed this discussion with a great deal of interest. As Dan San said there is a chance that the plane's engine buried itself deep into the ground. Any clue on if it was recovered by the Brits for examination? Maybe it wasn't since it was a typical rotary engine. What I think the R&D guys would have wanted to see was the fuselage and wings.

Having been involved with airplane/helicopter crashes throughout my military career, my guess is that you find the engine you find Voss nearby.

Also as I recall the Tripe's upper wing proved to be the design's Achille's heel killing and injuring many pilots when it structurally (spelling?) failed in flight. Eventually the cause was traced to faulty materials used in later plane's construction. However, I would guess that no expense was spared while Fokker and his boys built the two triplanes destined for Voss and MvR. So this defect would not have been evident until the plane began to be produced in numbers. VR, Scott

[tcrean7828]

Originally Posted by Roadhog

Dear Forum mates, I have followed this discussion with a great deal of interest. As Dan San said there is a chance that the plane's engine buried itself deep into the ground. Any clue on if it was recovered by the Brits for examination? Maybe it wasn't since it was a typical rotary engine. What I think the R&D guys would have wanted to see was the fuselage and wings.

Having been involved with aiplanes/helicopter crashes throughout my military career, my guess is that you find the engine you find Voss nearby.

Also as I recall the Tripe's upper wing proved to be the design's Achille's heel killing and injuring many pilots when it strucurally failed in flight. Eventually the cause was traced to faulty materials used in later plane's construction. However, I would guess that no expense was spared while Fokker and his boys built the two triplanes destined for Voss and MvR. So this defect would not have been evident until the plane began to be produced in numbers. VR, Scott

Mates,
Roadhog, glad to see you online again - how is the book coming, and you are most probably right - however Barefoot S did record the engine number and ID' it as coming off of a recently shot down Newport.

ttfn

tcrean7828

tom

[charles]

Originally Posted by Regulus

Tom,
Have you been at the crash site area ? If you need anything concerning photo's of it today let me know.

I would be very interested to see photos of the area where Voss is thought to have crashed. If you could PM them to me here at the Aerodrome I would really appreciate that.

[tengew]

between the arty and 90+ years of farming that area......not including the turmoil of the over fracas 21 years later the chance the engine is still planted there is slim to none along with any remaines ......... now was there any reports of finding human remains during the last 90 years in that feild???????