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Old 20 August 2008, 06:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Lt Boudwin, 84 Sqd RAF

Hi All,

I came across this image and I thought I'd share it. This is Lt Boudwin of 84 Sqd, he flew with Beaucamp-Proctor. I had always wondered how they climbed into the SE5 and this image give a good view.

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Old 20 August 2008, 02:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Talking I've been gathering Child Yank info for a QUARTER CENTURY now....

Dear Bulldog90:

The PIPE Here once again...and you MIGHT want to check out my post here on an aircraft that COULD have changed history...

at Joseph E. "Child Yank" Boudwin and S.E.5a E5937... ...

...as on August 9, 1918, JUST over ninety years ago as I write this, Child Yank MIGHT have possibly tangled with none other than ol' "Fat Hermann"...GOERING...himself, before he was fat, over Bertangles, where Boudwin was based while posted to RAF 84 Squadron, with Andrew (not Anthony) Beauchamp-Proctor, who was nicknamed "Prockie" and two inches SHORTER than Boudwin's small 5-foot-4 frame...and big, tall (6-foot-4), Hugh "Dingbat" Saunders, also from South Africa, as "Prockie" was.

I would LOVE to get photos on Boudwin's E5937 aircraft that he flew with 84 Squadron, and I'm HOPING you MIGHT have seen a photo or two of that aircraft...Boudwin left us in January of 1981, and sadly never got a chance to visit Old Rhinebeck while he WAS "here"...he REALLY wanted to meet Good Ol' COLE Palen!

Also, DO you also have the book entitled, "Child Yank Over the Rainbow", by Warren J. Brown, partially about Boudwin's wartime experiences??? I've got that one...and eventually being able to build and FLY an RC Giant Scale S.E.5a done up in Boudwin's E5937 color scheme would be a fantastic way to relive his experience in miniature...!!!

Hope to hear from you soon...

Yours Sincerely,

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Ref. GW aeroplane cockpits. The SE isn't too bad; definitely better access than, say, the D.VII, which requires going semi-horizontal to lever yourself 'neath the top wing. Roomiest was the Snipe, sort of the P-47 of WW I cockpits. The Nieups are a bit tight; the Albatros D.V affords ample room. Probably the SPAD fits me best, and I'm 5-8 on a good day.
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I wasn't familiar with Boudwin until I read the small biography available on Beauchamp-Proctor, but I'll keep my eye out for the titles you mentioned.

The notion of being able to get out of one of these planes with a parachute on, as its tumbling down out of control or on fire ( or both), is pretty daunting. Just getting in one looks unsafe, lol.

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There weren't any parachutes in use by the RAF, so you wouldn't have had to worry about getting out!

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