How I hate the man!

Willi Von Klugerman · 10 July 2009, 10:11 PM

I have always hated Goering (most of you would agree on that).Everytime I look a picture of him only nasty words come in my mind.I don't consider him a knight because he was a total moron who hardly ever flew when he took command of Jasta 11.I even go as far as to not even look at images and profiles of his aircraft.I often praise

Willi Gabriel for his defiance against Herman.And his exploits in WWII makes him a monster.

Sreiko · 11 July 2009, 12:12 AM

Actually dramatic change happen when his beloved girlfriend died between the wars.

Ginger. · 11 July 2009, 02:36 AM

He was a fighter pilot in at the dawn of airfighting. Willi, you can't take that away from him.

Sagittarius · 11 July 2009, 03:34 AM

Regardless of his efforts i suppose he was already in WW1 a selfish, ignorant, unpleasant character and a megalomaniac. The possibility of having nearly absolute power during the 3rd reich made this even worse.
But on the other hand it's still strange how people could do such atrocities. Rudolf Hess for example just saw the millions of jews as 'work' he has to handle with.
I guess the truth behind such characters is far beyond our imagination and maybe thats good for a reason.

VtwinVince · 11 July 2009, 10:22 AM

Not my favorite person either, but an accomplished flyer and someone with a very sharp mind. His later corruption was unfortunate, but you know what they say about absolute power.

FOKKERJ · 11 July 2009, 01:18 PM

Hi Willi,

Hate is a pretty strong word!

I don't know that I hate anyone....

I just don't like everybody!

FOKKERJ

P.S. Yes I believe that

Willi Gabriel is very admirable and has much more interesting and colorful markings on his machines.

Willi Von Klugerman · 11 July 2009, 01:46 PM

I problably wouldn't take his crap any much longer and I would most likely talk with the guys in the mess over about it and have a group complain to him.He couldn't send all of the group to a 2-seater unit!

Pips · 11 July 2009, 09:58 PM

Despite what the man became with the rise of the Nazi Party, Goering was a brave, capable fighter pilot with 22 claims to his credit. And he was renowed for possessing great physical courage.

stevedrew · 11 July 2009, 11:00 PM

Every thought expressed so far on this thread goes through my mind whenever I see or hear of Goering as well...except for your thoughts Willi.

He was a fighter pilot during this time of great conflict. His courage even going aloft in these fragile machines is exemplary, let alone being forced to perform manoeuvres either to evade or to conquer another machine. To do that whilst being shot at is unbelievable. EVERY fighter pilot of this era holds my eternal respect.

"He was a fighter pilot in at the dawn of airfighting. Willi, you can't take that away from him."

Well said indeed Ginger.

As for his being in command of Jasta 11...they wouldn't give that to just anyone. He was obviously a brave and courageous fighter pilot who had a good sense of Command, who also understood Comradeship, and held the respect of his fellow pilots. He had a sharp mind as was mentioned. Someone who arrives from another squadron to take command might hold respect due to reputation or rank, but to be promoted through the ranks and still have the respect of your comrades is indeed rare.

Yes, the man may very well have falsified his record as a fighter pilot either during WW1, between the wars, or during WW2, but still...he was there, and in combat, not a desk jockey.

Between the wars he became addicted to morphine (probably the result of wartime injuries) and became a fat megalomaniac, but I still cannot hate him. As FokkerJ said, hate is a very strong word. He was Adolf's "YES" man, but still held my respect for his previous deeds.

As for your talking to your mess buddies about confronting him regarding his leadership, and not being able to send you all to a two-seater squadron...well...how sure could you be that ONE of those chaps was not secretly an admirer of the Reich Marshal, or who had ambitions of promotion and saw a way to gain favour by "ratting you out". The great Adolf Galland confronted the Reich Marshall, and was sacked as General of the Fighters to a Squadron Leader.

rednev · 12 July 2009, 01:32 AM

Between the wars he became addicted to morphine (probably the result of wartime injuries) and became a fat megalomaniac, but I still cannot hate him. As FokkerJ said, hate is a very strong word. He was Adolf's "YES" man, but still held my respect for his previous deeds.

Goring became addicted to morphine while being treated for a gunshot
wound suffered on the 9th of november 1923 during the so called beer hall
putsch. An attempt by hitler to seize power,hitler wrote mein kampf whilst serving his prison sentence for his involvment.

As for goring not a nice person but anyone who can overcome an addiction to morphine by sheer will power is not to be under rated.