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29 July 2009, 06:00 AM
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For almost a half-century, Gunner Robert Buie sought official recognition that it was he who shot down the World War I fighter ace Manfred von Richthofen, the Red Baron. Now, 43 years after his death, the Hawkesbury river fisherman has it.
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He returned to fishing and oyster farming in the Hawkesbury river, north of Sydney. He lost his medals and other wartime memorabilia in a fire in the '50s and could not afford to pay for replacements. Buie died on Anzac Day 1964. His body was found in his boat, drifting on the Hawkesbury. He is buried in the Brooklyn cemetery. His headstone reads: "He shot down the Red Baron."
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Jo napot!
Where did you find this text?
Thorsten
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29 July 2009, 10:02 AM
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tudsz magyarul?
i surf on the internet and found this text! wait a moment and i find again this page!
ha tudsz magyarul akkor inkább úgy mondom! szval keresgéltem a neten és akkor akadtam rá a szövegre de ha vársz egy kicsit akkor megkeresem neked a honlap címét ha kell!
MvR 1st victory report:
September 17th saw von Richthofen begin his official score card, when Jasta 2 attacked a formation of eight BE2c from No.12 RFC, protected by six FE2b of No.11 RFC. Diving out of the sun, each pilot singled out a separate enemy. Richthofen riddled a FE2b, and it fell near Villers Pluich. Both pilot & observer were mortally wounded, although the pilot was able to get the aircraft down to a controlled crash landing. The pilot, a 2Lt Morris, died on the way to hospital.
Sept 17 1916
Vickers No.7018 Motor No.701
Nos.17314, 10372
Nr Villers Plouich 11am
When patrol flying I detected shrapnel clouds in the direction of Cambrai. I hurried forth and met a squadron which I attacked shortly after 11.00am. I singled out the last machine and fired several times at close range (10 meters). Suddenly the enemy propeller stood still. The machine went down gliding and I followed until I had killed the observer who had not stopped shooting until the last moment. At approx. 1200 meters a second German machine came along and attacked my victim right down to the ground and then landed next to the English plane.
Frhr. v.Richthofen
Lieut.
Have a nice day!
További szép jó napot!
MvR HU
Last edited by Manfred von Richthofen HU; 29 July 2009 at 12:53 PM.
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3 August 2009, 01:15 AM
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sorry the double post but the edit button is not his position!
so has MvR got a
Austrian Order of the Iron Crown, 3rd Class with War Decoration: 8 August 1917.
Austrian Military Merit Cross, 3rd Class with War Decoration
i read he was awarded this decoration! it is true?
MvR HU
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"I never was good at learning things. I did just enough work to pass. In my opinion it would have been wrong to do more than was just sufficient, so I worked as little as possible." Manfred von Richthofen
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3 August 2009, 06:58 AM
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MvR was awarded both.
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sorry the double post but the edit button is not his position!
so has MvR got a
Austrian Order of the Iron Crown, 3rd Class with War Decoration: 8 August 1917.
Austrian Military Merit Cross, 3rd Class with War Decoration
i read he was awarded this decoration! it is true?
MvR HU
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Manfred von Richthofen received both awards.
Here is a link to a thread in this Forum where you can see a list of his decorations with dates received.
MvR medals&decorations
George
Last edited by GMU; 3 August 2009 at 07:16 AM.
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3 August 2009, 08:29 AM
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thanks!
but i dont find MvR on the official Austro-Hungarian awarded list! Hindenburg,Falkenhayn is on the list but Richthofen not! why? is this Richthofen post war medal? or what?
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"I never was good at learning things. I did just enough work to pass. In my opinion it would have been wrong to do more than was just sufficient, so I worked as little as possible." Manfred von Richthofen
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4 August 2009, 03:47 AM
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What about Herman Göring and MvR? They were friend or not?
I think they were not friend!
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"I never was good at learning things. I did just enough work to pass. In my opinion it would have been wrong to do more than was just sufficient, so I worked as little as possible." Manfred von Richthofen
Last edited by Manfred von Richthofen HU; 4 August 2009 at 04:05 AM.
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21 August 2009, 12:21 PM
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the edit button was lost sorry the new post!
i have a question!
What was Manfred hairstyle? has anybody got a photo? i saw a photo where Manfred and Kurt Wolff speaking and Manfred has got a "new" hairstyle!
Manfred and Kate romance is fiction? I read a forum Kate and Manfred not friend but the propaganda must have this romance! I dont think this was propaganda because Manfred mother wrote MvR loves Kate and Kate love Manfred too! So i think this is not propaganda!
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"I never was good at learning things. I did just enough work to pass. In my opinion it would have been wrong to do more than was just sufficient, so I worked as little as possible." Manfred von Richthofen
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21 August 2009, 12:26 PM
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Manfred and Kate romance is fiction? I read a forum Kate and Manfred not friend but the propaganda must have this romance! I dont think this was propaganda because Manfred mother wrote MvR loves Kate and Kate love Manfred too! So i think this is not propaganda!
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In which sentence of mother Richthofen did you find this information? Please quote the lines and tell us the page.
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21 August 2009, 12:29 PM
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i read this info in the Peter Kilduff book!
just a moment please!
ahhh here it is:
The Illustrated Red Baron
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"I never was good at learning things. I did just enough work to pass. In my opinion it would have been wrong to do more than was just sufficient, so I worked as little as possible." Manfred von Richthofen
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21 August 2009, 03:40 PM
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Hello,
The Illustrated Red Baron that I own contains no such info. I have this fine book open before me now and the caption above the photo of MvR and KO on page 89 states: "A popular photograph of Richthofen and Käte Otersdorf, his nurse at the hospital in Courtrai, might have suggested a romantic link, but the rigid pose of both and the distance between them clearly signalled that theirs was an entirely professional relationship."
Kunigunde referred to MvR loving "this one girl," but no name was ever mentioned.
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Jim Miller
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