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2 March 2003, 11:00 AM
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Good evening,
I am a figures painters and WW1 enthusiast.
I must paint a figure of Udet, please do you know his colors' hair and eyes' colors.
Thank you very much
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2 March 2003, 12:21 PM
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Dear Bigglles,
I have read an interview with Udet made in about 1931 by Canadian journalist David B. Rogers, in which he mentions Udet's "lazy blue eyes". I cannot be sure of his hair color, but I think he was somewhat fair-haired. In some early 1917 photos he looks quite blonde, but in others somewhat darker. I think his hair got darker (and definitely thinner !) with age.
Greg
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2 March 2003, 10:52 PM
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Dear Greg,
Thank you very much for your kind help, this will help me.
best regards, Bigglles
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3 March 2003, 01:52 PM
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A note about EVR, "then and now."
During WW I apparently he really was a pretty crusty, rough-hewn character. Allegedly he told the 94th that his ambition was to be arrested for rape at 90. The mother of a friend of mine cared for him part time during his recovery from mastoid surgery. She described him as the most obnoxious man she ever met (my pal--actually a distant cousin--flew A-4s and explains, "Hey, he was a fighter pilot!")
However, EVR grew into his celebrity. He was a big advocate of self improvement: studied public speaking and became an articulate advocate of commercial aviation. Thus, it's not fair to judge him either by his early or later personality alone. Similar situations existed with others thrust into the limelight. Among those I've known, Joe Foss and Chuck Yeager are excellent examples. Lindbergh, who displaced EVR as America's No. 1 aviator, was brighter and much better educated but had to overcome an innate shyness. Main diff between 'em is that EVR welcomed publicity; Lindy barely tolerated it.
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3 March 2003, 03:57 PM
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yes, but did he live to be 90?
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4 March 2003, 12:14 PM
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EVR died in Zurich at the age of 82.
DE
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4 March 2003, 12:40 PM
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Man, This thread has sure strayed a long way from the color of Ernst Udet's hair and eyes!! R.
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4 March 2003, 02:01 PM
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By Aerodrome standards, this thread is still on track!
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4 March 2003, 02:40 PM
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<grabbing the wheel>
There is a picture in EVR's bio with he and Herr Ooday standing smiling pleasantly. Ernst seems lost in thought. They are shaking hands for the camera.
Pg 240-41 plate series, last photo.
whoa nellie.
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Or that,
"Virtue was not convenient at the time."
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4 March 2003, 11:56 PM
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I must paint a figure of Udet, please do you know his colors' hair and eyes' colors.
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A photograph of Udet taken with Carl Bolle and Karl Bodenschatz in August 1918 shows him to be fair haired and markedly shorter than the other two.
Cheers
Vin
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