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Old 28 August 2002, 01:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Did Albert Ball have any personal markings on his early mount, Nieuport 16 Ser.# A134? *Or did he follow British policy, which frowned on such markings?
Anyone know where a good 3-view of this kite might be found? *How accurate is the one for the Toko 1/72nd scale kit?

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Old 28 August 2002, 02:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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There is a photo of this airplane in "Nieuport Aces of World War 1" By Norman Franks, Osprey #33. It appears to show a painted engine cowl that may be blue, like the plane's roundel color. Topsides appear to be camo, dark wheel covers. I see no other personal markings in the photo.
 
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There is a photo of this airplane in "Nieuport Aces of World War 1" By Norman Franks, Osprey #33. It appears to show a painted engine cowl that may be blue, like the plane's roundel color. Topsides appear to be camo, dark wheel covers. I see no other personal markings in the photo.
Thank you for the prompt reply. *

I have seen the photo you mention, but am uncertain whether or not the cowl is blue. *It does appear to be painted, as does the cowl of Ball's earlier mount, A126. *

Are there any other photos of A134 out there? *This is the only one I've seen. *Dan-San? *Greg?

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Old 30 August 2002, 02:54 PM   #4 (permalink)
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There is a photo of this airplane in "Nieuport Aces of World War 1" By Norman Franks, Osprey #33. It appears to show a painted engine cowl that may be blue
Don't you mean his Nieuport 17?
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GrzeM:

Nieuport 16 is correct, not Nieuport 17. The photo plainly shows that A.134 had the distinctive N11 fuselage contour from the cockpit forward, plus headrest, that are the obvious telltales of a Type 16. The same book includes a color profile of an N17 flown by Ball, A.213
 
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OK, sorry.
I'm sure you can distinct 16 from 17. I only thought that you remembered 'some' Ball's Nieuport with blue cowling and thought it was 16.
I think that Ball's 17 had blue cowling, and with 16 I'm not sure. British blue is rather dark coulour, even on the orthochromatics.
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GrzeM:

I am not sure that British colors were used for the roundels on this plane. The wing roundels appear to me to be original French, and the fuselage roundel looks to be the same colors. Not as light as some French blues appear with orthochromatic film, but still lighter than most British roundels. I try not to guess at colors, other than to note whether they appear to be similar to a known color in the same photo. For all I know the cowling was orange, but it is not very different in apparance in the B/W photo than the blue of the fuselage roundel.
 
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And all this from a black and white photo.
 
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Sincere thanks to all who replied. *You've definitely given me food for thought.

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