where is the oil tank on the channel crossing Bleriot xI

THE GREAT WALDO · 18 April 2006, 02:45 PM

Hi Makhpiyaluta

Thanks for the reply, the original picture you sent only showed up as an red x on the forum, maybe you could email me it. I have been in touch with the museum in France that should have the original plane but so far no reply. The model I am making is the Amati art.1712/01 that has rectangular petrol tank and an extra oil resevoir also rectangular. The Amati model is very nice however for Euros 300 I would have thought tha the accuracy would be a little better, although I can understand that the cost of turing a petrol tank in brass would increase the cost. Would you happen to know where the oil pump handle woul be as I assume this would hve been operated by hand.
Thanks in advance.
Andrew Mazurkiewicz

THE GREAT WALDO · 18 April 2006, 02:49 PM

Hi Makhpiyaluta

After sending my last post the picture turned up so I think that I can work from your picture and info. Thanks very much.

Best wishes

Andrew Mazurkiewicz

Makhpiyaluta · 20 April 2006, 08:46 AM

Andrew,

Your welcome.
I've took a look at the model, it looks nice but I see there are springs for shockabsorbers as far as I know these should be bungeecords. You could use round elestick for that wich you can find in a fourniture shop.
Succes building and I hope to see the result here.

THE GREAT WALDO · 22 April 2006, 12:32 PM

Hi Makhpiyaluta

If your offer for a better photo still stands could you possibly send me a picture or drawing of the other side of the petrol tank and hand oil pump as I would like to get the various piping and cables as accurate as possible. I will be glad to post photos once I get started. If you have any links to an accurate plan of the channel crossing plane I would be grateful to see them. Thanks again for your kind help and hope the warm weather we are having in Vienna has reached you after the long winter.

Best wishes

Andrew

Makhpiyaluta · 23 April 2006, 03:54 AM

Andrew,

I'll try to find you some more photos of our tank and post them.
I don't understand what you mean with a hand oil pump as far as I know the oilpump is on the engine and the fueltank is not pressurized.
I did find you this photo of the engine, hope it is usefull.

Willem

Makhpiyaluta · 23 April 2006, 12:46 PM

Ok Andrew,

Here's a side view of the tank.
The front grenade shaped part is the oiltank then there is a kind of brass ring with holes separating it from the rear fueltank part. I hope it is clear enough to work with.

Makhpiyaluta · 24 April 2006, 01:36 PM

Andrew,

Here a close up of our tank.

THE GREAT WALDO · 24 April 2006, 02:01 PM

Hi Makhpiyaluta

Thanks again for the photos the last one is terrific, only question now is wether to make it out of sheet brass or torn it on my lathe. The hand pump notion came from the book Bleriot Herald of an age by Brian A Elliott where is states that Anzani shouted to Bleriot "give it oil " and I think somewhere else in the book it mentions that the oil was pumped by hand I will have to read through it again. By the way the books a good read.

Regards and best wishes

Andrew

THE GREAT WALDO · 24 April 2006, 02:22 PM

Hi Makhpiyaluta

I have found the page in the book Bleriot herald of an age where the oil pump is mentioned. On page 103 Anzani told Bleriot to remember to work the oil pump by its hand plunger every 3 minutes. I hope this is of some use to you and once again thanks for all of your help.

Regards

Andrew Mazurkiewicz

Makhpiyaluta · 25 April 2006, 01:31 AM

Well never too old to learn, I never knew that Andrew.
Our Bleriot has an 45hp Lenape 'Papoose' engine wich is more modern and has the oilpump on the engine. When the scale of your model is big enough you can make the tank off forced brass sheeting and solder it up.
Good luck!!!