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Old 17 September 2006, 11:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Event in Maubeuge, 1910?

Does anyone know if the French town of Maubeuge hosted or was part of any air meet or race in 1910 or (possibly) 1911? I'm looking at a postcard that, if the caption is to be believed, shows Bathiat "departing" Maubeuge in a Hanriot. Looks like there might be some concessions set up in the background and a group of spectators. I'd like to know what the event was and the date, if possible.

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Does anyone know if the French town of Maubeuge hosted or was part of any air meet or race in 1910 or (possibly) 1911? I'm looking at a postcard that, if the caption is to be believed, shows Bathiat "departing" Maubeuge in a Hanriot. Looks like there might be some concessions set up in the background and a group of spectators. I'd like to know what the event was and the date, if possible.

Thanks in advance,

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According to Silombra, there was a "meeting d'aviation" at Maubeuge 18-22 September 1910. Bathiat is noted as trying out his Hanriot. Doc
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Thanks very much, Doc!
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Old 18 September 2006, 09:28 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Eric;
"l'Aerophile" for 15 Octobre 1910, page 459, confirms a meet at de Maubeauge on 18 Sept. Below that it list a flight for that day at Reims, by Georges Bathiat who flew a Hanriot for 12 minutes at 40 meters. For an interesting connection to your photo with the Gregoire engine...the same column mentions that on Sept 19, at the Houry school, the princess Dolgorowski was training with a Gregoire aeroplane. On the 21st, Hanriot was flying his Hanriot at Dijon; Marie Marvingt was training on Antoinette at Mourmelon; The Hanriot school was at Reims. On Sept 23, Bolvin flew at the Hanriot school at Reims for ten minutes. There is mention of a "new" Hanriot monoplane on Sept 29, being tested by Martin.
* I would not have been able to locate this info without Doc pinning down the dates, though. The index in the bound volume for 1910 does not seem to mention either Bathiat or Hanriot! Maybe I'm not looking in the right place? (not to mention,it is all in French!)
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Gregoire engine correction

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I had earlier fallen victim to an erroneous statement by Glenn Angle (the "Aero Engine Encyclopedia/1921". and "Aerosphere 1939"-two of the "bibles" of aero engine specs) He wrote that only the "inverted" Gregoire engine was called the "Gyp." According to the photos and captions in the 1910 "lAerophile," from the 1910 Salon d'aeronautique, the upright is clearly labeled as a Gregoire Gyp. So "Gyp" is correct for both versions. Just wanted to let you know, lest you repeat my mistake.
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Old 18 September 2006, 06:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks, Joe!

I've always been a little perplexed at the relative lack of information about the Hanriots. I'm on the trail but it's cloudy.

Maybe best to start a new thread on this . . . . . .
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