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14 April 2008, 09:02 AM
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Russian Aeronautics before 1907
A great source of documents (in Russian language) concerning Russian aviation and aeronautics up to 1907. Воздухоплавание и авиация в России до 1907 г., 600+ documents collected, publication from 1956.
Credits for the reference to this site.
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14 April 2008, 09:36 AM
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Excellent!!!
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14 April 2008, 10:27 AM
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Includes an interesting [albeit retouched] photo-series of the Danilewsky man-powered aerostat Pilstrem. Three of these photos were not known to me.
[Image]http://www.earlyaviator.com/archive/airships01/1898.Danilewsky.dirigible.aerostat_Pilstrem.jpg[/Image]
PILSTREM
Even more exciting are these two extraordinary photographs:
Микст И. А. Матюнина в Охтенской верфи в 1891 г. (стр. 489)
[Mikst] I. A. Matiunina in [at] the Okhtenskoi shipyard in 1891. (р. 489)
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Микст И. А. Матюнина, подготовленный к полет (стр. 490)
[Mikst] I. A. Matiunina, prepared to [for the] flight (р. 490)
Disregard these links to the images. They don't work unless you go through the page Yavor posted. #8 and 9 @#$%&!
Thanks for posting this Yavor
Cheers
Rod
Last edited by Rod_Filan; 14 April 2008 at 06:53 PM.
Reason: bad links
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18 April 2008, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by YavorD
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Yavor, this is sure a great addition to early Russian aviation. Sure I never knew such a book existed. There are still surprises in early Russian aviation and one never knows what will come up next time.
The pictures of the Danilevski contains a few 'new' ones. Great.
I need some time searching for information about the dirigible of Огнеслав
Стефанович Костович the Россия.
The special picture is this one
Микст И. А. Матюнина в Охтенской верфи в 1891 г
There may be some translation to do from Russian in English  , but sure this is the same okhtenskoy shipyard [ Охтенской верфи] as where the Russia dirigible was built.
Many thanks Yavor for finding this gem.
Cheers
Kees
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18 April 2008, 10:44 PM
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I forgot this shot of the same dirigible
This application was called a Микст, half balloon, half other.
Cheers
Kees
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— Пусть едет в Америку. Если действительно полетит, мы встретим его с триумфом...
Несмотря на такое отношение, русские изобретатели и конструкторы упорно трудились, разрабатывая проекты управляемых аэростатов» В 80—90-х гг. разрабатывали проекты: Д. Н. Чернушенко — «Летоход»; М. Малыхин — «Воздушный торпедоносный корабль»; Телешев — управ-ляемый аэростат, заполняемый частично газом и частично нагретым воздухом; П. Д. Чернов, И. А. Матюнин, К. А. Данилевский, А. Влажко — аэростаты с применением крыльев (миксг). Были изобретатели, предлагавшие использовать для привода в действие электрические моторы: Шишка, Пешников, Гроховский. Были и другие предложения, однако все они не встретили никакой поддержки ни со стороны правительственных кругов, ни со стороны капиталистов. Никакой поддержки с их стороны не встретил и замечательный проект цельнометаллического дирижабля К. Э. Циолковского, еще в 1887 г. впервые выступившего с публичным докладом о своем воздушном корабле. Не помогло делу и то, что в 1892 г. Циолковский дал подробный проект своего дирижабля в работе: «Аэростат металлический, управляемый». Один из высших правительственных технических органов тогда ответил Циолковскому: «...соображения автора незаслуживают внимания».
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From here
Cheers
Kees
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18 April 2008, 11:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Varese2002
This application was called a Микст, half balloon, half other.
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Mikst = Mixed (?!)
Maybe Russian isn't such a hard language to learn after all.
Cheers
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18 April 2008, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rod_Filan
Mikst = Mixed (?!)
Maybe Russian isn't such a hard language to learn after all.
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Rod, you are probably right. Millions of Russians are speaking and reading this language quite easily. Only foreigners have to do their utmost to come to grips with the grammatical side, like the outrageous declination
Cheers
Kees
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19 April 2008, 12:23 AM
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those pics are amazing!
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19 April 2008, 03:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Varese2002
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Микст И. А. Матюнина в Охтенской верфи в 1891 г
There may be some translation to do from Russian in English  , but sure this is the same okhtenskoy shipyard [ Охтенской верфи] as where the Russia dirigible was built.
Many thanks Yavor for finding this gem.
Cheers
Kees
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You got it right, Kees!
As much as I can remember, the shipyard in question was on the banks of river Okhta (Okhta shipyard - Okhtenskaya (sudo)-verf).
Regards,
Yavor
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19 April 2008, 08:24 AM
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Thanks to Yavor and all I learned a bit more about Kostovich and was introduced to the work of I.A. Matyunin (correct spelling of his name), and visited the Russian website (new to me) where I found additional details. Much appreciated. Best regards, agblume
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