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[MattyBoy]

Go to this website: Histoire en photos de l'Aviation - Home

Trust me, if you like the pioneer stuff, it'll be worth it...

Regards,
Matt.

[YavorD]

Thank you very much, Matt!
Yavor

[Rod_Filan]

Thanks for posting Matt. It's quite a coincidence that just last night I was hoping I had a good-enough multiple-view plan-drawing of Capazza's lenticular airship to create a full-colour profile and more. This site you've found has an entirely suitable 5-view drawing under airships that I can easily work from!
Le magnifique!

Cheers
Rod

[Varese2002]

Hi Matt, thanks for the lead It still amazes me how many pictures have survived from these early times. There are quite a few ultra rare types between them.

Cheers

Kees

[Wind In The Wires]

Many thanks for that lead Matt.

Here's a photo from that link that raises a bunch of questions;



I've seen pictures of this machine that referred to it as a pre war German development. In one of the pictures in this link there is what appears to be the casing for a second machine standing on edge against the wall.

Does anyone know how this thing was supposed to work? Were there patent drawings with explanations? It looks like the front casing was for a centrifugal compressor that pressurized the skirt below the cockpit to provide lift. what were the ports in the skirt for? The arm sticking out the back has an airfoil shape but if the machine moved in the direction the airfoil was effective it would roll over. Was the leaf blower type nozzle the only control device?

The more pictures of this thing I see the curiouser I become.

[Varese2002]

You can read plenty on the Papin et Rouilly Gyroptère in the famous book of Leonard Opdycke French Aeroplanes Before the Great War. Papin and Rouilly obtained French patents 440,593 and 440,594 in 1911 for their invention.

In the French magazine Air Magazine No.30 (February / March 2006) there is an 8 page article on this remarkable Gyroptère. This may be the last word in information on the Papin et Rouilly machine as the grandson of Rouilly contributed from family archives to this article.

The Gyroptère was characterized in the contemporary French journal La Nature. Revue des sciences et de leurs applications aux arts et à l'industrie No. 2139 as 'un boomerang géant' [a giant boomerang].

Cheers

Kees

[aerohydro]

Hello All,

Here are a couple of links about this amazing non-flying machine:

Several contemporary photos of the Gyroptère This is from a site run by JC Carbonel, who wrote the Air Magazine article. If you click on the photo of the model at the bottom of the page, it'll take you to a webpage showing the model in more detail.

Cover of the Sept 1922 issue of Popular Science The artwork shows the machine in flight, and the pilot actually smiling. Both are as equally unlikely!

Cheers,
Paul

[YavorD]

This excellent picture (1565/C) is captioned Caudron G.III. An armed Caudron G.IV is shown with crew and gun, but engines not running.

Histoire en photos de l'Aviation > Les Machines Volantes > Militaire

With best regards,
Yavor

[Varese2002]

Originally Posted by YavorD

An armed Caudron G.IV is shown with crew and gun, but engines not running.

Histoire en photos de l'Aviation > Les Machines Volantes > Militaire

With best regards,
Yavor

Hi Yavor, this looks not like a normal gun, but like a heavy Canon as fitted in the Voisin Canon biplanes. The Canon is also 45 degrees mounted upwards, probably a test mounting.

All the best in Moscow,

Cheers

Kees

[YavorD]

Originally Posted by Varese2002

Hi Yavor, this looks not like a normal gun, but like a heavy Canon as fitted in the Voisin Canon biplanes. The Canon is also 45 degrees mounted upwards, probably a test mounting.

All the best in Moscow,

Cheers

Kees

Thank you, Kees!
In my opinion, it is a normal machine gun, an infantry gun. May be Lewis? It is aimed by the gunner, placed in front of the nacelle. It looks too heavy gauge because we see not the barrel but the barrel liner (is it correct word?).
Regards,
Yavor