Breguet pre 1914 ID challenge 013

[richard B]

Good luck for this number 13 .


The score at the end of end of #012 is:

3.50 Varese2002
2.20 RBailey
2.00 Airarticles
1.00 Cruze
1.00 joegertler
1.00 matte_kudasai
1.00 paolomiana
0.50 Richard B
0.50 Rod_Filan
0.30 aerohydro
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The rules :
•The thread title must be "Bréguet's pre-1914 ID challenge #......"
•The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning and end of each thread so that we know where we are.
•The flying object must have been dreamt up before 1914 (no limit backwards in time ....)
•There are no limits to the flying object for the pre-1914 series. There is no ruling that it must be flown, or completely built
•Machines which exist only as 'paper', that is absolutely no material has been cut to construct it, are excluded from this ID Challenge
•The picture / drawing must show as much of the flying object as possible, but views showing the machine 'incomplete' are possible (with discretion)
•Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified
•If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of a flying object for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the object is submitted.
•Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they belong to the ROYALTY. Once they belong to the ROYALTY they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
•To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
•The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
•If a ROYALTY gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
•The final arbitor in relation to questions about the rules will be Bregue

[Airarticles]

Hello

I guess that in this challenge it could be the Evers E 5 from 1912.
Similar monoplane was built by Wilhelm Heinrich Evers designated E 6. Taube like wings, similar fuselage, swept horizontal stabilizer. I attached the drawing of Evers E 6. Challenge photo is showing probably the earlier version, single seater of less smart design.

Milan

[richard B]

Bonjour ,

Sorry ,it's not an NFW/Evers .

Good luck in your further investigations

Richard

[Rbailey]

Looks like we may need some help on this one. The closest I can come with the forked tail and taube wings is the Horvath III, but the details are wrong.

[richard B]

Hello

I don't know the Horvath .
What is its country of origine ? U.K ?

Well ,some help :

It is from Germany
Its designer is well known among those interrested by the German Aviation history in the Great World War .

Good luck

Richard

[Rbailey]

Horvath was Austro-Hungarian. I know nothing about it except a picture that has similar characteristics. As I said, differs in too many details but I thought I woul keep the thread going.

[Flamingo]

Hi Richard

the nearest I could find is the Etrich Schwalbe but it differs in some detail.
And Igo Etrich was not extremely prominent in German WW 1 aviation...

[richard B]

It seems I have found something uncommon:
I got this picture in one of thouse numerous booklets entitltled
"Flugplatz XYZ" or "Flugwesen rund um ZYX" I use to read at the Deutsche Museum Bibliotek .
There are a lot of bad pictures ,but sometimes after hours reading I found a (at least for me) rarity I never saw before: but I don't know much about pre 1919 aviation ,and I think that a rarity for me ,is pretty common for much of you .

Good luck

Richard

A little more help :don't look in south-Germany

[richard B]

Some more help:

The BIRD was designed and flown in North Germany .

[Varese2002]

Originally Posted by richard B

I--- I found a (at least for me) rarity I never saw before: but I don't know much about pre 1919 aviation ,and I think that a rarity for me ,is pretty common for much of you .---

You must be joking , this has already cost hours of searching and no results till now. But thanks anyway and to recapitulate we must look out for :

- a plane designed and built in Northern Germany

- a plane of the BIRD (TAUBE) family

- a plane that was designed / built by a (later) well known designer for those interested in German aviation in the Great War

Cheers

Kees