Breguet's Pre-1914 Challenge # 014

[Rbailey]

While 013 may have ended up as somewhat questionable, I will go ahead with 014 which, I think, is known with considerably more certainty and is rather less obscure.

A suggestion - would posting reference to this challenge on the 1914-1918 challenges be helpful in encouraging more participants? - there may very possibly be participants there who rarely look at this page.

The score at the end of end of #013 is:

3.50 Varese2002
3.20 RBailey
2.00 Airarticles
1.00 Cruze
1.00 joegertler
1.00 matte_kudasai
1.00 paolomiana
0.50 Richard B
0.50 Rod_Filan
0.30 aerohydro
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The rules :
•The thread title must be "Bréguet's pre-1914 ID challenge #......"
•The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning and end of each thread so that we know where we are.
•The flying object must have been dreamt up before 1914 (no limit backwards in time ....)
•There are no limits to the flying object for the pre-1914 series. There is no ruling that it must be flown, or completely built
•Machines which exist only as 'paper', that is absolutely no material has been cut to construct it, are excluded from this ID Challenge
•The picture / drawing must show as much of the flying object as possible, but views showing the machine 'incomplete' are possible (with discretion)
•Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified
•If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of a flying object for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the object is submitted.
•Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they belong to the ROYALTY. Once they belong to the ROYALTY they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
•To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
•The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
•If a ROYALTY gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
•The final arbitor in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet

[cruze]

Hello

I think it's the 1909 Anzani monoplane.
The uncovered fuselage, the landing gear, the tail wheel and the important incidence angle of the wing are caracteristic.

According to Opdycke this plane is also known as the the "de Mas monoplane".

Cheers

Laurent

[cruze]

Here is an other picture of the Anzani monoplane :



Laurent

[Varese2002]

Originally Posted by Rbailey

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A suggestion - would posting reference to this challenge on the 1914-1918 challenges be helpful in encouraging more participants? - there may very possibly be participants there who rarely look at this page.

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Sure, Pioneer aviation is contained in No Man's Land so lots of people who might be interested will not find this chapter. I think the advertising / marketing and probably the placement of this Chapter (Pioneer Aviation) can be better.

I will contact Breguet about this.

Cheers

Kees

[Varese2002]

Originally Posted by cruze

Hello

I think it's the 1909 Anzani monoplane.
The uncovered fuselage, the landing gear, the tail wheel and the important incidence angle of the wing are caracteristic.

According to Opdycke this plane is also known as the the "de Mas monoplane".

Cheers

Laurent

Typical is also the very 'square' (oblique) construction of the wings, tail, rudder etc. By the way I cannot imagine that Anzani could design this aeroplane as he was an engineer specialized in engines. Probably the designer was de Mas?

Cheers

Kees

[Rbailey]

Anzani built his plane in 1909, the same year he took up flying a Voisin type machine. (He was actually a pretty reasonable pilot, by all accounts.) The Anzani had a span of 8 meters and was powered by a 3 cylinder Anzani (!) engine with a belt drive to the propeller. It had limited success. Opdyke says that de Mas financed the project, which would have been good business practice for Anzani.

Anzani was certainly mechanically inclined, and at that stage of aeronautics, pretty much anyone in that category might have tried his hand at aircraft design.

At any rate, Cruz gets the point and the next challenge.

The score at the end of end of #014 is:

3.50 Varese2002
3.20 RBailey
2.00 Airarticles
2.00 Cruze
1.00 joegertler
1.00 matte_kudasai
1.00 paolomiana
0.50 Richard B
0.50 Rod_Filan
0.30 aerohydro

The rules :
•The thread title must be "Bréguet's pre-1914 ID challenge #......"
•The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning and end of each thread so that we know where we are.
•The flying object must have been dreamt up before 1914 (no limit backwards in time ....)
•There are no limits to the flying object for the pre-1914 series. There is no ruling that it must be flown, or completely built
•Machines which exist only as 'paper', that is absolutely no material has been cut to construct it, are excluded from this ID Challenge
•The picture / drawing must show as much of the flying object as possible, but views showing the machine 'incomplete' are possible (with discretion)
•Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified
•If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of a flying object for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the object is submitted.
•Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they belong to the ROYALTY. Once they belong to the ROYALTY they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
•To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
•The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
•If a ROYALTY gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
•The final arbitor in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet