Breguet's pre-1914 ID Challenge #016

[Airarticles]

Breguet's Pre-1914 Challenge # 016

Hello

After Battaille`s triplane here is sure the mystery for maybe all pre-1914 aircraft hunters.

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Cheers

Milan (Airarticles)

The score at the end of end of #015 is:

3.50 Varese2002
3.20 RBailey
3.00 Airarticles
2.00 Cruze
1.00 joegertler
1.00 matte_kudasai
1.00 paolomiana
0.50 Richard B
0.50 Rod_Filan
0.30 aerohydro


The rules :
•The thread title must be "Bréguet's pre-1914 ID challenge #......"
•The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning and end of each thread so that we know where we are.
•The flying object must have been dreamt up before 1914 (no limit backwards in time ....)
•There are no limits to the flying object for the pre-1914 series. There is no ruling that it must be flown, or completely built
•Machines which exist only as 'paper', that is absolutely no material has been cut to construct it, are excluded from this ID Challenge
•The picture / drawing must show as much of the flying object as possible, but views showing the machine 'incomplete' are possible (with discretion)
•Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified
•If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of a flying object for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the object is submitted.
•Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they belong to the ROYALTY. Once they belong to the ROYALTY they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
•To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
•The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
•If a ROYALTY gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
•The final arbitor in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet

[Aquilius]

Here we have a monoplane, built by the bohemian pioneer Ludvik Ocenasek in 1910.

It was powered by a 50 hp rotary (Gnôme probably) and is sometimes mentioned as "2-seater monoplane" - derived from a Blériot obviously.

It's aditional rudders, the triangular side-cover and the low mounted engine might be somthing unique.


Cheers


Aquilius

[Rbailey]

Another quick one! Here is another view, and I think the engine may have been of his own design,although perhaps just his own copy of a Gnome. He went from here to rocketry.

[Varese2002]

Originally Posted by Aquilius

Here we have a monoplane, built by the bohemian pioneer Ludvik Ocenasek in 1910.

It was powered by a 50 hp rotary (Gnôme probably) and is sometimes mentioned as "2-seater monoplane" - derived from a Blériot obviously.

It's aditional rudders, the triangular side-cover and the low mounted engine might be somthing unique.


Cheers


Aquilius

It was powered by a 50 hp rotary (Gnôme probably)

It is stated clearly in the article on Ocenasek you refer to, that this machine was powered by his own 50 hp rotary which he also had invented. Interesting and definitely scarcely known machine. Kudos to the experts who identified this machine so quickly

Cheers

Kees

[Aquilius]

Originally Posted by Varese2002

It is stated clearly in the article on Ocenasek you refer to, that this machine was powered by his own 50 hp rotary which he also had invented...

You are right. I haven't read it very precisely.
I shouldn't make assumtions too quickly...


Aquilius

[Airarticles]

Congratulation Aquilius

I was so persuaded that this challenge will last several days, hmm, so quick answer! You are receiving the Full Point.

Yes, indeed this is the monoplane of Ludvik Ocenasek (the reading of this surname is something like Otchenaschek).

The score at the end of #016 is:

3.50 Varese2002
3.20 RBailey
3.00 Airarticles
2.00 Cruze
1.00 joegertler
1.00 matte_kudasai
1.00 paolomiana
1.00 Aquilius
0.50 Richard B
0.50 Rod_Filan
0.30 aerohydro


Cheers
Milan

[Varese2002]

Originally Posted by Airarticles

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Yes, indeed this is the monoplane of Ludvik Ocenasek (the reading of this surname is something like Otchenaschek).
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Reading the short biographies of Ludvík Očenášek (1872-1949) on the internet, it amazes me that so little is known about him in the west. After his early aircraft adventures he went into rocket science and built a few of which one in the 1930's reached a height of 1500 meters.

Cheers

Kees

[Aquilius]

Yipee - I'm in!


Thanks Kees for all the " ´ ` ^ ...".
I didn't took the time yesterday to look up his name completely, but his origin indicates the use of some specific letters.


And does anyone have something more about the flying history of that bird?
Apart from a mentioned flight of 100 feet, about 30 meters (what with respect I do not find to be a "considerable distance" in November 1910) I didn't found much more of its use.


Thanks in advance.
#17 is coming up soon.




Aquilius

[Varese2002]

For the Czechs between us, there is an article in the Czech magazine L+K on Ludvík Očenášek. It is in the december issue of 1990 (12/90) but given the title '60. výročí československých raket a Ludvík Očenášek' may be only about the rockets he devised.

Cheers

Kees