Bréguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge #056

[matte_kudasai]

I think it will be simple enough...

Scoreboard at the end of Challenge #055

11.80 Rbailey
7.50 Varese2002
6.00 Cruze
5.70 aerohydro
5.30 matte_kudasai
5.20 Aquilius ===> have to wait 12 hours

4.90 Airarticles =====> may start immediately
4.20 richard B
1.00 Doc
1.00 Flamingo
1.00 joegertler
1.00 paolomiana
1.00 YavorD
0.50 Rod_Filan
0.40 Wind In The Wires
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Reference list held by Rod Filan: Breguet's Pre-1914 Aircraft Challenge

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Breguet's Rules

1. The thread title must be "Bréguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge #......"
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The flying object must have been dreamt up before 1914 (no limit backwards in time ....)
4. There are no limits to the flying object for the pre-1914 series. There is no ruling that it must be flown, or completely built
5. Machines which exist only as 'paper', that is absolutely no material has been cut to construct it, are excluded from this ID Challenge
6. The picture / drawing must show as much of the flying object as possible, but views showing the machine 'incomplete' are possible (with discretion)
7. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified
8. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of a flying object for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the object is submitted.
9. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they belong to the ROYALTY. Once they belong to the ROYALTY they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
10. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
11. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
12. If a ROYALTY gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
13. The final arbitor in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet

[Flamingo]

It is the Gabardini flying boat of 1912. The "fuselage" and the tailplane are the features.

[SCMc]

Is ther any record of this flying? Comparing the wings to the tailplane, the angle of attack seems much too high.

Steve

[matte_kudasai]

OK, Flamingo, you'v got it.

Scoreboard at the end of Challenge #055

11.80 Rbailey
7.50 Varese2002
6.00 Cruze
5.70 aerohydro
5.30 matte_kudasai
5.20 Aquilius ===> have to wait 12 hours

4.90 Airarticles =====> may start immediately
4.20 richard B
2.00 Flamingo
1.00 Doc
1.00 joegertler
1.00 paolomiana
1.00 YavorD
0.50 Rod_Filan
0.40 Wind In The Wires
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Reference list held by Rod Filan: Breguet's Pre-1914 Aircraft Challenge

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[matte_kudasai]

Originally Posted by SCMc

Is ther any record of this flying? Comparing the wings to the tailplane, the angle of attack seems much too high.

In Opdyke's book said that "it was tested, unsucessfully, in the harbor at Monaco". It seems that it was not flying...

[aerohydro]

Hello All

I'd like to let people know that there's a slight tweaking to the points table.

In Challenge #053, I had offered extra half points to anyone who could proffer new material about the Dane Hulbert flying machine. Kees (aka Varese2002) has now found a patent, and also that the aviator's name was actually Dane Hurlburt. A century after the fact, it's only proper that we should know his real name.

As a result of his find, and as per this posting, Varese2002 increases his score from 7.50 up to 8.00.

Revised scoreboard at the end of Challenge #055

11.80 Rbailey
8.00 Varese2002
6.00 Cruze
5.70 aerohydro
5.30 matte_kudasai
5.20 Aquilius ===> have to wait 12 hours

4.90 Airarticles =====> may start immediately
4.20 richard B
2.00 Flamingo
1.00 Doc
1.00 joegertler
1.00 paolomiana
1.00 YavorD
0.50 Rod_Filan
0.40 Wind In The Wires

[Rbailey]

Flamingo, where are you?

[richard B]

BONJOUR A TOUS
During the hours left by Flamingo's rechearches ,let try the Breguet's ID challenge # 569 (aircraft section):A pre-War bird wich still flew during the summer 1914 ;

Cheers

Richard