Bréguet's Pre-1914 ID challenge #065

[Airarticles]

Bréguet's Pre-1914 ID challenge #065

Here is the next pre-1914 challenge. I hope it will appear between this text:

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or this

early aircraft picture by Airarticles - Photobucket

Good searching.

Milan

The scoreboard at the end of Challenge #064:

12.20 Rbailey
9.40 Varese2002
6.20 Aquilius
6.00 Cruze
5.70 aerohydro
5.30 matte_kudasai
5.20 richard B
5.50 Airarticles ===> have to wait 12 hours

2.00 joegertler =====> may start immediately
2.00 Flamingo
1.50 Rod_Filan
1.00 Doc
1.00 paolomiana
1.00 YavorD
0.60 Froggy
0.40 Wind In The Wires



The rules are :
1. The thread title must be "Bréguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge #......"
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The flying object must have been dreamt up before 1914 (no limit backwards in time ....)
4. There are no limits to the flying object for the pre-1914 series. There is no ruling that it must be flown, or completely built
5. Machines which exist only as 'paper', that is absolutely no material has been cut to construct it, are excluded from this ID Challenge
6. The picture / drawing must show as much of the flying object as possible, but views showing the machine 'incomplete' are possible (with discretion)
7. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified
8. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of a flying object for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the object is submitted.
9. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they belong to the ROYALTY. Once they belong to the ROYALTY they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
10. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
11. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
12. If a ROYALTY gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
13. The final arbitrator in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.

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Previous challenges are found here: Breguet's Pre-1914 Aircraft Challenge

Breguet's Pre-1914 Aircraft Challenge

[Airarticles]

I think I failed how to post image between the text

So that I will attach the picture here:

[Varese2002]

Milan, you have taken the wrong code from Photobucket. To include pictures on a forum you should use the last one that begins with IMG ... It is as easy as that.



Cheers

Kees

[Airarticles]

Thank you Kees. OK, another try.
Milan

[Rbailey]

Italian Miller monoplane. The undercarriage, tail, and cabane struts and fuel tank are the features that have the right characteristics. Unfortunately, my picture is not clear enough to show the control wheel, which would cinch it.

[Airarticles]

Yes, Rbailey is right, it is the Miller monoplane and receives a full point. Any additional photos or details are welcomed from the Forum community.

The identification of the challenge No.65:

Miller monoplane

The scoreboard at the end of Challenge #065:

13.20 Rbailey
9.40 Varese2002
6.20 Aquilius
6.00 Cruze
5.70 aerohydro
5.30 matte_kudasai
5.20 richard B
5.50 Airarticles ===> have to wait 12 hours

2.00 joegertler =====> may start immediately
2.00 Flamingo
1.50 Rod_Filan
1.00 Doc
1.00 paolomiana
1.00 YavorD
0.60 Froggy
0.40 Wind In The Wires

[Varese2002]

Franz Miller from Turin (Italy) actually built 3 different aeroplanes:

• 1908 - An ornithopter

• 1909 - A monoplane, (mostly) known as the Ponzelli-Miller Aerocurvo, sometimes as the Miller Aerocurvo. The name Aerocurvo came from the curved wings. Riccardo Ponzelli was an early Italian aviator who was the first who flew in the sky over South America. It is mostly given that Ponzelli designed the Aerocurvo and that Franz Miller built it. My idea is that Pozelli gave the broad outlines and Miller did the engineering and actually the building.

• 1910 - A monoplane built by Miller

In this Challenge we were looking at the Miller Monoplano model 1910.

AFAIK Miller ended his airplane building in 1910, no more planes......

Cheers

Kees

[Airarticles]

Hello

For those interested in early Italian planes there is quite rare site here:



AVIA - Associazione di Volontariato in Italia per l'Aviazione


Cheers
Milan

[Rbailey]

A little more on Miller;
miller