Breguet'e Pre-1914 Challenge # 069

[Rbailey]

For your amusement.

Scoreboard at the end of # 68 :Mainguet 1910

14.20 Rbailey
9.40 Varese2002
6.20 richard B
6.20 Aquilius
6.00 Cruze
5.70 aerohydro
5.50 Airarticles
5.30 matte_kudasai===> have to wait 12 hours

3.00 Flamingo =====> may start immediately
2.00 joegertler
1.50 Rod_Filan
1.00 Doc
1.00 paolomiana
1.00 YavorD
0.60 Froggy
0.40 Wind In The Wires

Breguet's Pre-1914 Aircraft Challenge

RULES :

1. The thread title must be "Bréguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge #......"
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The flying object must have been dreamt up before 1914 (no limit backwards in time ....)
4. There are no limits to the flying object for the pre-1914 series. There is no ruling that it must be flown, or completely built
5. Machines which exist only as 'paper', that is absolutely no material has been cut to construct it, are excluded from this ID Challenge
6. The picture / drawing must show as much of the flying object as possible, but views showing the machine 'incomplete' are possible (with discretion)
7. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified
8. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of a flying object for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the object is submitted.
9. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they belong to the ROYALTY. Once they belong to the ROYALTY they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
10. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
11. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
12. If a ROYALTY gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
13. The final arbitrator in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.

[Flamingo]

The undercarriage, twin cabanes and wings look like a Fokker Spin

[Rod_Filan]

Because this Spin has a covered fuselage, I'm saying it's a German military Fokker M.2 of 1912.
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Cheers

[Rbailey]

Sorry, not a Fokker.

[richard B]

Bonjour/bonsoir à tous

It's the

Norddeutsche Flugzeugwerke NFW / Evers E 5 1912.

It looks something like the Spin ,but the very large Undercarriage was my clue (and I knew the picture too . )

Cheers

Richard

[Varese2002]

This is one of the Monoplane (Eindecker) types designed and built by the Nordwestdeutsche Flugzeugwerke Heinrich Evers & Co. In all 6 different monoplanes E 1 till E 6 were built by NFW between 1912 - 1913, the firm folded for financial reasons within a year. The engineer Heinrich Evers was the leading force in NFW. In 1913 he went to the USA to work in the Benoist firm.
After the start of the war he immediately returned to Germany, but was captured by the French and kept in France till 1917, when he fled to Switzerland and later to Germany. He started work with Caspar later again going to the USA to work in the Fokker firm.

The machine in the challenge is given as fifth monoplane (E 5), powered by a 3-cylinder Hilz engine (40 hp). It was a single-seat machine, with a wide spaced undercarriage and skids. Interesting are the double posts on the fuselage securing all the wires strengethening the wings.

Cheers

Kees

[Rbailey]

Richard has the quicker finger (again) but Kees has the proper name for the company. I will have to give some thoought to distribution of points.

[Rbailey]

Richard had the right machine but was, shall we say, directionally challenged, which is not insignificant as there was also a Norddeutsche Flugzeugwerke. But he did have the designer so I will give him half a point and the next challenge, and the other half point to Kees for the correct name of the firm and the additional details

Scoreboard at the end of # 069 :Nordwestdeutsche Flugzeugwerke (NFW) Heinrich Evers E 5

14.20 Rbailey
9.90 Varese2002
6.70 richard B
6.20 Aquilius
6.00 Cruze
5.70 aerohydro
5.50 Airarticles
5.30 matte_kudasai===> have to wait 12 hours

3.00 Flamingo =====> may start immediately
2.00 joegertler
1.50 Rod_Filan
1.00 Doc
1.00 paolomiana
1.00 YavorD
0.60 Froggy
0.40 Wind In The Wires

Breguet's Pre-1914 Aircraft Challenge

RULES :

1. The thread title must be "Bréguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge #......"
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The flying object must have been dreamt up before 1914 (no limit backwards in time ....)
4. There are no limits to the flying object for the pre-1914 series. There is no ruling that it must be flown, or completely built
5. Machines which exist only as 'paper', that is absolutely no material has been cut to construct it, are excluded from this ID Challenge
6. The picture / drawing must show as much of the flying object as possible, but views showing the machine 'incomplete' are possible (with discretion)
7. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified
8. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of a flying object for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the object is submitted.
9. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they belong to the ROYALTY. Once they belong to the ROYALTY they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
10. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
11. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
12. If a ROYALTY gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
13. The final arbitrator in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.