Bréguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge #079

[Rod_Filan]

Please pardon the delay, my first choice - the Tillinghast monoplane - turned out to be a hoax.



This one is legit.

Pre-1914 Challenge Scoreboard at the end of round 78 - Australian L. J. R. Jones petrol engined monoplane, his third design:

15.20 Rbailey
10.90 Varese2002
7.20 Aquilius
6.70 richard B
6.00 Cruze
5.70 aerohydro
5.50 Airarticles
5.30 matte_kudasai ===> have to wait 12 hours

4.00 Flamingo =====> may start immediately
2.00 Rod_Filan
2.00 joegertler
2.00 YavorD
2.00 Lodzermensch
1.10 Froggy
1.00 Doc
1.00 paolomiana
1.00 berman
0.40 Wind In The Wires


Previous Breguet's Pre-1914 Aircraft Challenges

The rules:

1. The thread title must be "Bréguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge #......".
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The flying object must have been dreamt up before 1914 (no limit backwards in time ....).
4. There are no limits to the flying object for the pre-1914 series. There is no ruling that it must be flown, or completely built.
5. Machines which exist only as 'paper', that is absolutely no material has been cut to construct it, are excluded from this ID Challenge
6. The picture / drawing must show as much of the flying object as possible, but views showing the machine 'incomplete' are possible (with discretion).
7. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified.
8. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of a flying object for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the object is submitted.
9. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they belong to the ROYALTY. Once they belong to the ROYALTY they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
10. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
11. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
12. If a ROYALTY gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
13. The final arbitrator in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.

[berman]

This is the Thomas Moy tandem wing monoplane built in 1875. It had 6 foot diameter propellers and a 15 foot wingspan. Powered by a three horsepower steam engine. Some report that it flew at a height of six inches. Some say it never got off the ground.
I will leave it to someone else to post the next challenge.

[berman]

I have only seen this one front view photo of the Aerial Steamer. Would love to see this craft from other angles.

[Breguet]

Originally Posted by berman

This is the Thomas Moy tandem wing monoplane built in 1875. It had 6 foot diameter propellers and a 15 foot wingspan. Powered by a three horsepower steam engine. Some report that it flew at a height of six inches. Some say it never got off the ground.
I will leave it to someone else to post the next challenge.

You maybe right, but we'll wait for Rod to confirm it before talk of posting!

[Rod_Filan]

Well done berman. You've summed up all the pertinent facts of this early British experiment quite correctly.

Further reading and photo source:
The Pioneers : An Anthology : Thomas William Moy (1828 - 1910)


Pre-1914 Challenge Scoreboard at the end of round 79 - the unmistakable Moy aerial steamer tandem-wing monoplane of 1875:

15.20 Rbailey
10.90 Varese2002
7.20 Aquilius
6.70 richard B
6.00 Cruze
5.70 aerohydro
5.50 Airarticles
5.30 matte_kudasai ===> have to wait 12 hours

4.00 Flamingo =====> may start immediately
2.00 berman
2.00 joegertler
2.00 Lodzermensch
2.00 Rod_Filan
2.00 YavorD
1.10 Froggy
1.00 Doc
1.00 paolomiana
0.40 Wind In The Wires

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Cheers

[Varese2002]

Thomas Moy is covered in four pages in the delightful book of Maurice Kelly about the use of steam engines for flight

Kelly, Maurice. 2006. Steam in the air: the application of steam power in aviation during the 19th and 20th centuries. Barnsley: Pen & Sword Aviation. ISBN 1844152952

Kelly even managed to present another illustration of this test-machine, which shows some differences from the 'famous' picture.

Cheers

Kees