Breguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge #085

aerohydro · 10 June 2009, 10:50 PM

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Pre-1914 Challenge Scoreboard at the end of round #084:

15.90 Rbailey
11.90 Varese2002
7.20 Aquilius
6.70 aerohydro
6.70 richard B
6.00 Cruze
5.50 Airarticles
5.30 matte_kudasai ===> have to wait 12 hours

4.00 Flamingo =====> may start immediately
3.30 Rod_Filan
2.00 berman
2.00 joegertler
2.00 Lodzermensch
2.00 YavorD
1.10 Froggy
1.00 Doc
1.00 paolomiana
1.00 sobrien
0.40 Wind In The Wires
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Reference list of previous challenges: Breguet's Pre-1914 Aircraft Challenge

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The rules:

1. The thread title must be "Bréguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge #......".
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The flying object must have been dreamt up before 1914 (no limit backwards in time ....).
4. There are no limits to the flying object for the pre-1914 series. There is no ruling that it must be flown, or completely built.
5. Machines which exist only as 'paper', that is absolutely no material has been cut to construct it, are excluded from this ID Challenge
6. The picture / drawing must show as much of the flying object as possible, but views showing the machine 'incomplete' are possible (with discretion).
7. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified.
8. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of a flying object for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the object is submitted.
9. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they belong to the ROYALTY. Once they belong to the ROYALTY they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
10. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
11. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
12. If a ROYALTY gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
13. The final arbitrator in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.

Varese2002 · 11 June 2009, 11:58 PM

The drawing seems to come from a patent, giving the sketchy impression. The goal of the machine is at least clear, vertical take-off and -landing on the water. Sure not a Curtiss design as he was more practically orientated. I think we are at least looking at a USA machine.

Cheers

Kees

Lodzermensch · 12 June 2009, 09:03 AM

Hello,

Kees,

I do not have any idea what is this, however I think it was powered by two pusher type propellers driven by chains and it did not have a vertical rotor. In my view there are only two pairs of control cables for horizontal rudder and wires strengthen the wing tips.

Cheers

Marek

Varese2002 · 12 June 2009, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lodzermensch

Hello,

Kees,

I do not have any idea what is this, however I think it was powered by two pusher type propellers driven by chains and it did not have a vertical rotor. In my view there are only two pairs of control cables for horizontal rudder and wires strengthen the wing tips.

Cheers

Marek

Marek, I looked again carefully. You are right, there is no helicopter propeller. I mistook the control cables for a propeller. It is like that psycho test where you can see two different things

I am in line with you, that I have not the faintest idea what this might be or where to seek. Only US is a reasonable shoot.

Cheers

Kees