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Old 18 June 2009, 01:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Breguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge #086

Breguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge #086

This one could be a lot of fun. Please give all you have about this machine, this will earn you the glory of a full point (1.0 point)



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Scoreboard at start of Pre-14 Challenge #086

Pre-1914 ID Challenge Scoreboard at the end of round #084:

15.90 Rbailey
11.90 Varese2002
7.20 Aquilius
6.70 aerohydro
6.70 richard B
6.00 Cruze
5.50 Airarticles
5.30 matte_kudasai ===> have to wait 12 hours

4.00 Flamingo =====> may start immediately
3.30 Rod_Filan
2.00 berman
2.00 joegertler
2.00 Lodzermensch
2.00 YavorD
1.10 Froggy
1.00 Doc
1.00 paolomiana
1.00 sobrien
0.40 Wind In The Wires

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1. The thread title must be "Bréguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge #......".
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The flying object must have been dreamt up before 1914 (no limit backwards in time ....).
4. There are no limits to the flying object for the pre-1914 series. There is no ruling that it must be flown, or completely built.
5. Machines which exist only as 'paper', that is absolutely no material has been cut to construct it, are excluded from this ID Challenge
6. The picture / drawing must show as much of the flying object as possible, but views showing the machine 'incomplete' are possible (with discretion).
7. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified.
8. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of a flying object for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the object is submitted.
9. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they belong to the ROYALTY. Once they belong to the ROYALTY they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
10. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
11. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
12. If a ROYALTY gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
13. The final arbitrator in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.
Reference list of previous challenges: Breguet's Pre-1914 Aircraft Challenge

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Old 19 June 2009, 12:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, not much fun here. Dead silence for almost 24 hours

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Old 19 June 2009, 01:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Showing the blunt end of this neutral-buoyancy man-powered dirigible aerostat isn't revealing enough. Best post another view to spur further curiosity.
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Another view, same machine



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Old 19 June 2009, 09:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Some extra pictures, to get a better view of this machine






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Old 19 June 2009, 09:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
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A ground view, this machine might be tone of the most photographed early machines. The designer was at least very conscious of the media



I think this will do to get more action in this Challenge.

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Few people remember the old thread about aeronautics in Russia, as well as the name of Danilevsky (Данилевский).



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Yavor goes for glory.
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Hi Rod!
Obviously, there is no enough "critical mass" of minds poised to answer such difficult questions about pre-aeroplane days. And some of the most educated not always have spare time to dig up old files or dusty books.
Let's hope someday someone will tell the story in such a way to impress the readers and move on to the next Challenge!
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P.S. There is another excellent picture with the name on the gas-bag, and may be a bit more inside the small book found by Kees!
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----- move on to the next Challenge! -----

Correct answer

Dirigible of Konstantin Danilewsky


Scoreboard at end of Breguet's Pre-14 ID Challenge #086

15.90 Rbailey
11.90 Varese2002
7.20 Aquilius
6.70 aerohydro
6.70 richard B
6.00 Cruze
5.50 Airarticles
5.30 matte_kudasai ===> have to wait 12 hours

4.00 Flamingo =====> may start immediately
3.30 Rod_Filan
3.00 YavorD
2.00 berman
2.00 joegertler
2.00 Lodzermensch
1.10 Froggy
1.00 Doc
1.00 paolomiana
1.00 sobrien
0.40 Wind In The Wires

Challenge #087

Goes to Yavor

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