Bréguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge # 91

[YavorD]

Another contraption presented here in a feeble attempt to please early aviation buffs.
The usual questions about what, who, when and where will be considered.
Good hunting!
Yavor

The scoreboard after Pre-1914 ID Challenge # 90

- August von Parseval's Aeroboat of 1909 -

15.90 Rbailey
11.90 Varese2002
8.20 Aquilius
6.70 aerohydro
6.70 richard B
6.30 matte_kudasai
6.00 Cruze
5.50 Airarticles
5.00 YavorD ===> have to wait 12 hours
4.00 Flamingo ==> may start immediately
3.30 Rod_Filan
2.00 berman
2.00 joegertler
2.00 Lodzermensch
1.10 Froggy
1.00 Doc
1.00 paolomiana
1.00 sobrien
0.40 Wind In The Wires

Rules of engagement:

1. The thread title must be "Breguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge #......".
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The flying object must have been dreamt up before 1914 (no limit backwards in time ....).
4. There are no limits to the flying object for the pre-1914 series. There is no ruling that it must be flown, or completely built.
5. Machines which exist only as 'paper', that is absolutely no material has been cut to construct it, are excluded from this ID Challenge
6. The picture / drawing must show as much of the flying object as possible, but views showing the machine 'incomplete' are possible (with discretion).
7. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified.
8. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of a flying object for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the object is submitted.
9. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they belong to the ROYALTY. Once they belong to the ROYALTY they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
10. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
11. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
12. If a ROYALTY gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
13. The final arbitrator in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.

Reference list of previous challenges: Breguet's Pre-1914 Aircraft Challenge™

[Rbailey]

French Saulnier monoplane, first version of 1910, based on undercarriage, engine installation and pilot seating.

[Varese2002]

To elaborate somewhat as asked. Raymond Saulnier did design work on the Blériot Type VIII and Type XI (the famous Channel machine). Some sources take it he did most or all of the designing of the Type XI for Blériot.

Saulnier was not held by Blériot, so he started an own aeroplane construction firm at Courbevoie where he had an atelier at Rue de l'Industrie 63 (that is the place this picture was taken).
His monoplane - which certainly looks like a further devlopment of the Blériot Type XI - was an excellent flyer. The pilot was seated low in the completely open fuselage, a great difference with the Blériot. The machine was fitted with a two-cylinder Darracq engine and later with an Anzani 3-cylinder.
The machine was mostly piloted by Emile Duval, who maybe in the pilot chair in this Challenge picture.

You will not believe it, but a series of 14 examples was built (and I presume sold), which was really not a bad production number for those times (1910).

Saulnier closed down his firm and entered in his cooperation with the Morane brothers, where he was for a few decades responsible for technical design of the Morane-Saulnier types, starting with the first MS monoplanes and ending somewhere in the 1940's. Sometimes machines are named as Morane's, which belittle the effort of Saulnier.

To end for this machine, Saulnier already obtained two Patents in 1910 in regards to this plane in France 412.049 and 412.077. It was the beginning of a long run of patents.

Cheers

Kees

[YavorD]

Rbailey is right on time and on target.
Varese2002 added valuable details concerning engine type, place, production and, possibly, pilots name.
According one of the sources, the propeller was designed by Saulnier too.
Another source say 30 hp Darracq engine (watercooled as can be seen from the picture above).

0.7 for Rbailey, as well as next Challenge, and 0.3 for Varese2002.

Thank you!
Yavor

The scoreboard after Pre-1914 ID Challenge # 91

- Saulnier monoplane of 1910 with Darracq engine -

16.60 Rbailey
12.20 Varese2002
8.20 Aquilius
6.70 aerohydro
6.70 richard B
6.30 matte_kudasai
6.00 Cruze
5.50 Airarticles
5.00 YavorD ===> have to wait 12 hours
4.00 Flamingo ==> may start immediately
3.30 Rod_Filan
2.00 berman
2.00 joegertler
2.00 Lodzermensch
1.10 Froggy
1.00 Doc
1.00 paolomiana
1.00 sobrien
0.40 Wind In The Wires