Breguet's Pre-1914 Challenge #92

[Rbailey]

A simple one.

The scoreboard after Pre-1914 ID Challenge # 91

- Saulnier monoplane of 1910 with Darracq engine -

16.60 Rbailey
12.20 Varese2002
8.20 Aquilius
6.70 aerohydro
6.70 richard B
6.30 matte_kudasai
6.00 Cruze
5.50 Airarticles
5.00 YavorD ===> have to wait 12 hours
4.00 Flamingo ==> may start immediately
3.30 Rod_Filan
2.00 berman
2.00 joegertler
2.00 Lodzermensch
1.10 Froggy
1.00 Doc
1.00 paolomiana
1.00 sobrien
0.40 Wind In The Wires


Rules of engagement:
1. The thread title must be "Breguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge #......".
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The flying object must have been dreamt up before 1914 (no limit backwards in time ....).
4. There are no limits to the flying object for the pre-1914 series. There is no ruling that it must be flown, or completely built.
5. Machines which exist only as 'paper', that is absolutely no material has been cut to construct it, are excluded from this ID Challenge
6. The picture / drawing must show as much of the flying object as possible, but views showing the machine 'incomplete' are possible (with discretion).
7. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified.
8. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of a flying object for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the object is submitted.
9. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they belong to the ROYALTY. Once they belong to the ROYALTY they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
10. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
11. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
12. If a ROYALTY gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
13. The final arbitrator in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.

Earlier challenges are at Breguet's Pre-1914 Aircraft Challenge

[YavorD]

Caudron Frères monoplane of 1912 with a 6-cylinder Anzani radial air-cooled engine, sometimes described as Type M, also with a 50 hp Gnome Ω. Development of an earlier design of 1911, Type N, first shown on public with a 3-cylinder Y-type Anzani.
Regards,
Yavor

[Aquilius]

I believe this is the Caudron N monoplane.

Engine fitting, small pyramid kingpost, landing gear and rudder seem to match here, as well as the ontop the fuselage placed horizontal stabilizer.


Damn!
My MG jammed, ehm, my net connection went off right in time...


Cheers

Aquilius

[YavorD]

The photo for this Challenge was published in Flight, May 11, 1912, page 413. The aeroplane is described in a 4 page article. Earlier version was shown on January 13, 1912, page 40.
Picture of the Gnome-powered version is shown by Opdycke (French Aeroplanes Before the Great War, page 81).
Regards,
Yavor

[Rbailey]

Yavor has it plus the reference to a pretty detailed description.

The scoreboard after Pre-1914 ID Challenge # 92 - Caudron monoplane of 1912 with 6 cylinder Anzani engine.

16.60 Rbailey
12.20 Varese2002
8.20 Aquilius
6.70 aerohydro
6.70 richard B
6.30 matte_kudasai
6.00 YavorD
6.00 Cruze
5.50 Airarticles ===> have to wait 12 hours

4.00 Flamingo ==> may start immediately
3.30 Rod_Filan
2.00 berman
2.00 joegertler
2.00 Lodzermensch
1.10 Froggy
1.00 Doc
1.00 paolomiana
1.00 sobrien
0.40 Wind In The Wires


Rules of engagement:
1. The thread title must be "Breguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge #......".
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The flying object must have been dreamt up before 1914 (no limit backwards in time ....).
4. There are no limits to the flying object for the pre-1914 series. There is no ruling that it must be flown, or completely built.
5. Machines which exist only as 'paper', that is absolutely no material has been cut to construct it, are excluded from this ID Challenge
6. The picture / drawing must show as much of the flying object as possible, but views showing the machine 'incomplete' are possible (with discretion).
7. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified.
8. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of a flying object for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the object is submitted.
9. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they belong to the ROYALTY. Once they belong to the ROYALTY they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
10. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
11. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
12. If a ROYALTY gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
13. The final arbitrator in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.

Earlier challenges are at Breguet's Pre-1914 Aircraft Challenge