Breguet's Pre-1914 Challenge # 122

Rbailey · 14 September 2009, 03:38 PM

We have had gliders, balloons and other weird stuff, but I don't think we have had a flying bicycle.

The scoreboard at the end of Challenge #121; Dutch Monnier Harper Lygia hydro-aeroplane, is:

21.40 Rbailey
17.20 Varese2002
12.80 aerohydro
12.20 Aquilius
7.30 matte_kudasai
7.00 richard B
6.00 Cruze
6.00 Flamingo
6.00 YavorD
5.90 Rod_Filan
5.50 Airarticles
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(those above this section must wait 12 hours before answering,
those below - and everyone else - may answer immediately)
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3.30 berman
3.00 Lodzermensch
3.00 joegertler
2.00 sobrien
2.00 Doc
1.10 Froggy
1.00 paolomiana
0.40 Wind In The Wires
0.20 Willi Von Klugermann

Previous challenges are at: Breguet's Pre-1914 Aircraft Challenge

The rules of engagement:

1. The thread title must be "Breguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge #......".
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The flying object must have been dreamt up before 1914 (no limit backwards in time ....).
4. There are no limits to the flying object for the pre-1914 series. There is no ruling that it must be flown, or completely built.
5. Machines which exist only as 'paper', that is absolutely no material has been cut to construct it, are excluded from this ID Challenge
6. The picture / drawing must show as much of the flying object as possible, but views showing the machine 'incomplete' are possible (with discretion).
7. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified.
8. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of a flying object for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the object is submitted.
9. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they belong to the ROYALTY. Once they belong to the ROYALTY they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
10. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
11. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
12. If a ROYALTY gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
13. The final arbitrator in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.

Ian Curtis · 14 September 2009, 07:50 PM

I don't know what that is, but I would guess it was built for the Prix Peugeot held in 1913?

aerohydro · 14 September 2009, 09:54 PM

It's a pedal-powered potato crisp.

Judging from the darkening on the right hand side of the image, it's been scanned from a book. Thus, it's been published!

Rod_Filan · 14 September 2009, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aerohydro

It's a pedal-powered potato crisp.

It looks like something Wile E. Coyote would order from the Acme Aeroplane Company.

aerohydro · 14 September 2009, 10:53 PM

When perusing the Acme catalog, Wile E Coyote settled on getting the batsuit:

Rbailey · 15 September 2009, 10:39 AM

Laugh if you must, but this "aircraft" actually flew, and in fact is of some minor historical interest. Well before 1913.

Rod_Filan · 15 September 2009, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul

YouTube - Franz Reichelt - Eiffel Tower

Who's laughing now? But thanks for the clue Ron -- at least we know now that you're not pulling our leg.
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Cheers

Varese2002 · 15 September 2009, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rbailey

---- but I don't think we have had a flying bicycle.-----

The impression is given in the drawing that the man on the bike is pedalling like mad to stay in the air .... but I don't see a propeller or a chain from the pedals to the (non-existing) propeller.

Machine might be from around 1900. Although it is guessing I would locate in the USA.

Cheers

Kees

Rbailey · 15 September 2009, 04:20 PM

Kees, you are right, there is no propeller. You have to allow for a certain artistic license, but the drawing overall seems to be a reasonable representation, at least based on the only photo I have seen that shows only the wing clearly. But it is not US.

aerohydro · 15 September 2009, 11:15 PM

I've seen a photo of a 1904 aviette, which is the earliest that I've so far come across, but it's definitely not this design.

BTW, there are still people out there tinkering with aviettes. Here is a website for the Skycycle, a prone bicycle that American Joe Axline is hoping to make into a flying machine.