Breguet pre-1914 Challenge#125

[richard B]

Bonjour à tous
After the #124 I brillantly solved (Will remain in the annals ...) ,a much easier #125 .

Good luck

Richard





The scoreboard at the end of Challenge #124 is:

21.40 Rbailey
17.20 Varese2002
13.80 aerohydro
12.20 Aquilius
8.00 richard B
7.30 matte_kudasai
6.90 Rod_Filan
6.00 Cruze
6.00 Flamingo
6.00 YavorD
5.50 Airarticles
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(those above this section must wait 12 hours before answering,
those below - and everyone else - may answer immediately)
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3.30 berman
3.00 Lodzermensch
3.00 joegertler
2.00 sobrien
2.00 Doc
1.10 Froggy
1.00 paolomiana
0.40 Wind In The Wires
0.20 Willi Von Klugermann

The rules of engagement:

1. The thread title must be "Bréguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge #......".
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The flying object must have been dreamt up before 1914 (no limit backwards in time ....).
4. There are no limits to the flying object for the pre-1914 series. There is no ruling that it must be flown, or completely built.
5. Machines which exist only as 'paper', that is absolutely no material has been cut to construct it, are excluded from this ID Challenge.
6. The picture / drawing must show as much of the flying object as possible, but views showing the machine 'incomplete' are possible (with discretion).
7. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified.
8. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of a flying object for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the object is submitted.
9. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they belong to the ROYALTY. Once they belong to the ROYALTY they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
10. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
11. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
12. If a ROYALTY gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
13. The final arbitrator in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.

[aerohydro]

It's not the Copin Monoplane, though they look very similar.

Paul

[richard B]

Bonjour à tous

Sorry , it's not it

Cheers
Richard

[YavorD]

The long fuselage, as well as overall proportions reminds me early Raymond Saulnier designs.
Regards,
Yavor

[richard B]

Bonjour à tous :

Sorry,it's not a Morane-Saulnier

Cheers

Richard

[Varese2002]

Given the known fondness of Richard for German machines I would propose this as the Walther Stein Eindecker 1910. There is a match with the split rudder (up and under the fuselage), the central pylon with benzine tank. On the Challenge picture it is difficult to see, but the engine appears to be an inline air cooled engine. The steering wheel is of standard construction. Fuselage looks triangular - fully covered.

The Walther Stein Eindecker 1910 was built on the instructions of Stein by the Albatros firm.

Cheers

Kees

[richard B]

Bonjour à tous

I know two Walter Stein planes :
The first built by Rumpler and shown here .
The last buit at his own "Walter Stein Aeroplanbau" at Teltow
Neither the first nor the second are the subjects of this Challenge.




Some help :
It's a german aeroplane
It was built in 1911

I read twice wrong infos about it ,in Lange's book and in a french review,and dig it out the Deutsche Museum Bibliothek this summer while searching for saiplanes of the thirties :It was quite a good surprise ,and worth the two previous fruitless hours ...

Cheers

Richard

[Varese2002]

Looking again at this rarity, I seem to identify a three-cylinder engine. Given that aspect and the fully closed fuselage of this Eindecker (advanced for 1911) this could be the Noris Eindecker built by the BMFW (Bayerische Motoren- und Flugzeugwerke) in 1911. This machine was powered by a 3-cylinder BMFW engine.

Cheers

Kees

[richard B]

Sorry ,it's not the Noris :the Noris was a much different design .

Cheers

Richard

[Rod_Filan]

I noticed the link to previous challenges was missing...

Breguet's Pre-1914 Aircraft Challenge

Carry on...
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Cheers