Breguet's pre 1914 ID Challenge No 139

[richard B]

Bonjour à tous

This time ,it's a "special" one

I know ,the picture is not good ,but I can't offer more . :this picture ,although bad ,is very interesting .

Just tell us the name of the ED standing at the rear of this Renoir's "Déjeuner sur l'herbe " scenery:you need not more to get the full point

Good luck


The scoreboard after challenge #138 – Bristol-Halberstadt Taube I - is

23.60 Rbailey
18.20 Varese2002
16.80 aerohydro
13.20 Aquilius
9.20 Rod_Filan
8.50 richard B
7.30 matte_kudasai
6.00 Cruze
6.00 Flamingo
6.00 YavorD
5.50 Airarticles
**************
(those above this section must wait 12 hours before answering,
those below - and everyone else - may answer immediately)
**************
3.50 Lodzermensch
3.30 berman
3.00 joegertler
3.00 sobrien
2.00 Doc
2.00 sodium
1.10 Froggy
1.00 paolomiana
0.40 Wind In The Wires
0.20 Willi Von Klugermann
0.20 EricGoedkoop


Richard



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The rules of engagement:

1. The thread title must be "Bréguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge #......".
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The flying object must have been dreamt up before 1914 (no limit backwards in time ....).
4. There are no limits to the flying object for the pre-1914 series. There is no ruling that it must be flown, or completely built.
5. Machines which exist only as 'paper', that is absolutely no material has been cut to construct it, are excluded from this ID Challenge.
6. The picture / drawing must show as much of the flying object as possible, but views showing the machine 'incomplete' are possible (with discretion).
7. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified.
8. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of a flying object for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the object is submitted.
9. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they belong to the ROYALTY. Once they belong to the ROYALTY they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
10. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
11. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
12. If a ROYALTY gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
13. The final arbitrator in relation to questions about the rules will be B

[Aquilius]

Not a single attempt here?!


The machine has some resembalance to the monoplane of Bronislaw Głowiński built in Tarnopol 1911. But there are also a few differences, not only the inverted triangular fuselage and the supporting 'skids' at the wings.

And judging from the scenery this "déjeuner" probably took place far away from Lemberg (today Львів/Lwiw in Ukraine).

When I look at the buildings and the people...

Are we in the US, 1911 or 1912?


Cheers

Aquilius

[richard B]

Sorry ,it's not U.S

Cheers
Richard

[Varese2002]

I suppose it is plain German, from the Kaiserreich period, probably 1910 judging from the almost completely 'open' fuselage.

Cheers

Kees

[richard B]

You are right ,it is german

[Aquilius]

Has someone seen the moderator?







Aquilius

[Rbailey]

The high-mounted propeller resembles the Grade Racing Taube? (renneindecker, type E?

[richard B]

Some help :

-Varese is right ,1910 is its birthyear
-Sorry RBailey ,It's not a Grade .
-Origin :North Germany ( the place where it was built is not the the place of
the picture.)
-Please ,look a the front under fuselage :You all have already seen it .
-It's in Lange

now it will be easier ...

GOOD LUCK ,

Richard

[Varese2002]

Originally Posted by richard B

Some help :

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now it will be easier ...

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Looking again it the picture and the extra information, then a likely candidate can be the Eindecker of Hanuschke Flugzeugbau of 1910. This was a 'classical' Hanuschke machine with the pilot seating under the wing as appears in this picture. Engine was a 3-cylinder Anzani of about 18 hp.

There was already a Hanuschke in the Pre-1914 Challenge, but that one was from 1912 (Populaire II).

Cheers

Kees

[richard B]

Sorry ,it's not an Hanuschke .