Breguet's pre-1914 ID Challenge #140

[Aquilius]

Ladies & Gentlemen, welcome to Breguet's pre-1914 ID Challenge #140!

Here is your new task:

The scoreboard after challenge #139 : SCHUDEISKY EINDECKER

23.60 Rbailey
18.20 Varese2002
16.80 aerohydro
14.20 Aquilius
9.20 Rod_Filan
8.50 richard B
7.30 matte_kudasai
6.00 Cruze
6.00 Flamingo
6.00 YavorD
5.50 Airarticles
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(those above this section must wait 12 hours before answering,
those below - and everyone else - may answer immediately)
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3.50 Lodzermensch
3.30 berman
3.00 joegertler
3.00 sobrien
2.00 Doc
2.00 sodium
1.10 Froggy
1.00 paolomiana
0.40 Wind In The Wires
0.20 Willi Von Klugermann
0.20 EricGoedkoop

Previous challenges : Breguet's Pre-1914 Aircraft Challenge

The rules of engagement:

1. The thread title must be "Bréguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge #......".
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The flying object must have been dreamt up before 1914 (no limit backwards in time ....).
4. There are no limits to the flying object for the pre-1914 series. There is no ruling that it must be flown, or completely built.
5. Machines which exist only as 'paper', that is absolutely no material has been cut to construct it, are excluded from this ID Challenge.
6. The picture / drawing must show as much of the flying object as possible, but views showing the machine 'incomplete' are possible (with discretion).
7. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified.
8. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of a flying object for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the object is submitted.
9. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they belong to the ROYALTY. Once they belong to the ROYALTY they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
10. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
11. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
12. If a ROYALTY gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
13. The final arbitrator in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet

[Varese2002]

This machine is the 1909 glider known (today) as Coanda-Joachim-Caproni, which was designed and built in Liege ('Luik') - Belgium - in 1908.
Coanda designed the machine, Joachim built it in his workshops and Caproni was called the 'mate' of Coanda [he himself stated that he did not contribute to the machine).

Photoshopped away is the identification of the machine on the rudder, which reads Coanda-Joachim. It is reported that tests with the machine were conducted in the summer-autumn 1909 in Liege. Caproni said in 1935 that the glider was built in 1908 and that it was tested satisfactory in the Ardennes.

The machine can be identified as a biplane glider with identical unstaggered wings and relatively short tailbooms. The machine had a skid landing gear where the start was done on a four-wheel trolley.

Kees

[Aquilius]

Kees is right!

But why you state it is the "1909 glider" when you say it was built in 1908?

In WW1 Aero #147 it is called the "1908 glider"


And Caproni was not only the mate of Coandă, he was also his classmate and roommate when they were studying at the Institut Monfleur in Liege.

The picture should have been taken in Spa. Coandă is in the pilot's seat and Caproni stands in front.


Over to you, Kees.


The scoreboard after challenge #140 - Coanda-Joachim-Caproni Glider:

23.60 Rbailey
19.20 Varese2002
16.80 aerohydro
14.20 Aquilius
9.20 Rod_Filan
8.50 richard B
7.30 matte_kudasai
6.00 Cruze
6.00 Flamingo
6.00 YavorD
5.50 Airarticles
**************
(those above this section must wait 12 hours before answering,
those below - and everyone else - may answer immediately)
**************
3.50 Lodzermensch
3.30 berman
3.00 joegertler
3.00 sobrien
2.00 Doc
2.00 sodium
1.10 Froggy
1.00 paolomiana
0.40 Wind In The Wires
0.20 Willi Von Klugermann
0.20 EricGoedkoop


Thanks for playing!




Aquilius