Breguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge #434

[Tork1945]

As I had this one for a long time in the works, I think it appropriate to present this one after the little known Kiev. Of course the Kiev did get a commemoration stamp and this one obviously not. To earn the full point please answer the following questions - what, where and when. If anyone knows what became from the machine it would be very interesting.

Tork1945

Previous challenges are here: Breguet's Pre-1914 Aircraft Challenge.

Scoreboard at the start of Challenge #434:

86.40 Rbailey
81.60 aerohydro
52.95 Varese2002
40.20 Aquilius
29.50 Rod_Filan
29.45 richard B
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(those above this section must wait 24 hours before answering)
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21.90 Tork1945
9.40 Airarticles
9.00 Doc
8.50 Lodzermensch
7.70 ermeio
7.30 matte_kudasai
7.30 YavorD
6.30 AnYun
6.00 Cruze
6.00 Flamingo
5.00 sobrien
5.35 Froggy
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(those immediately above this section must wait 12 hours before answering.)
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4.20 Wind In The Wires
3.30 berman
3.00 joegertler
3.00 sodium
1.00 matthewk
1.00 Catfish
1.00 dhc2pilot
1.00 Mattyboy
1.00 paolomiana
1.00 Tripehound Flyboy
0.20 EricGoedkoop

The rules are:

1. The thread title must be "Breguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge #......".
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The flying object must have been dreamt up before 1914 (no limit backwards in time ....).
4. There are no limits to the flying object for the pre-1914 series. There is no ruling that it must be flown, or completely built.
5. Machines which exist only as 'paper', that is absolutely no material has been cut to construct it, are excluded from this ID Challenge.
6. The picture / drawing must show as much of the flying object as possible, but views showing the machine 'incomplete' are possible (with discretion).
7. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified.
8. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of a flying object for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the object is submitted.
9. Once someone has received 5 (five) points, they belong to ROYALTY, and must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer. Once someone has achieved 25 (twentyfive) points, they must wait 24hrs after the original post before being able to post an answer.
10. In order to correctly identify the flying object, an answer must mention a characteristic of the design which has helped with its identification, or include a reference to a publication or website, which will confirm the attribution.
11. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
12. If a ROYALTY gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
13. The final arbitrator in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.

[Rod_Filan]

Keil ballo-plane. An electrically-propelled dirigible balloon combined with lifting aeroplanes.

This 1905 Keil-Myers HTA/LTA airship was presented the week of January 13, 1906 at the 69th Regiment Armory Auto Show in Manhattan, New York, that also included an exhibition of mainly "historical" flying machines put on by the Aero Club of America.




The challenge photograph appeared in the February 17, 1906 Scientific American Supplement No. 1572, in an article entitled A Visit to the First Show of the Aero Club of America written by Carl E. Myers, in which he describes the ballo-plane in one short paragraph:

Next in line beyond the Thomas airship was the inflated airship of Mr. W. M. Keil, of Tuxedo Park, N.Y. This consisted of a very light symmetrical silk gas bag of spindle shape, one of several built by myself for various parties during the past season. This was kept completely inflated during the entire show, and was the only inflated airship in the room. Suspended below it was a long, light, triangular section frame, like the gunwales and keel of a boat stripped of its sides. Midway of this was an electric motor operating a screw propeller at one end of the boat, the screw shaft being flexible to permit of the screw blades facing in any direction to steer the vessel, while a large balanced aeroplane midway of the boat aided to raise or depress the vessel on a level during its flight. As a model of simplicity and effectiveness it was a notable exhibit.

Cheers

[Rod_Filan]

An interesting item in Carl Myers' Sci Am article follows the above paragraph:

Alongside Mr. Keil's "ballo-plane" and stretching midway of the room was suspended the framework, twin-cylinder motor, and screw of the Baldwin "California Arrow" of 1904, a comparatively close imitation of the No. 9 "Runabout" airship of M. Santos-Dumont hanging parallel with it, and having its aeronaut's car fixed close to the motor, while the Baldwin airship is without a car, the weight of the aeronaut necessitating his standing on the framework at a distance from the motor, to balance the weight of motor and screw. The chief difference in the two frames is the abrupt shortening of one end of the Santos-Dumont framework in this particular airship, its more refined, lighter, complex construction, its smaller screw propeller, and its higher speed. Each of these frames had suspended above them the collapsed gas envelopes used to support them.

Myers is wrong in assuming this was a copy of the Baladeuce. This was the real deal. In 1904 S-D brought the No.9, along with the No.7 "Racer" to the US. The No.7 continued onto St. Louis while the No.9 stayed in New York where it was exhibited at Dreamland amusement park at Coney Island. Edward C. Boyce, the amusement park tycoon and part owner of Dreamland, soon after bought the Baladeuce as he had the Santos-Dumont No.6 a couple of years earlier. Furthermore, a news report in late 1905 mentions Boyce planning on exhibiting the airship at the 69th Regiment Armory Auto Show. Myers, living and working on the Balloon Farm and not involved much with the aeronautical scene in the Big Apple, was probably unaware of the No.9 being in America all this time and unlikely to have ever heard the name Edward C. Boyce.

Incidentally, another Myers airship was the subject of Breguet's pre-1914 ID Challenge #333


Cheers

[Tork1945]

Mr. Filan is absolutely right on the mark. Full point allotted. It is remarkable that little (or better nothing) was published in the press than this article in the Scientific American Supplement. One would have thought the spectacle of a fully inflated dirigible balloon inside a building on an exhibition would have got more attention in the media.

This seems to be the only moment of glory for the Ballo-plane of Mr. Keil. Never heard of after this event.

Tork1947

[Tork1945]

Correct identification

Keil Ballo-plane dirigible balloon exposited in the week of January 13, 1906 at the 69th Regiment Armory Auto Show in Manhattan, New York


Scoreboard at the end of Challenge #434:

86.40 Rbailey
81.60 aerohydro
52.95 Varese2002
40.20 Aquilius
30.50 Rod_Filan
29.45 richard B
**************
(those above this section must wait 24 hours before answering)
**************
21.90 Tork1945
9.40 Airarticles
9.00 Doc
8.50 Lodzermensch
7.70 ermeio
7.30 matte_kudasai
7.30 YavorD
6.30 AnYun
6.00 Cruze
6.00 Flamingo
5.00 sobrien
5.35 Froggy
**************
(those immediately above this section must wait 12 hours before answering.)
**************
4.20 Wind In The Wires
3.30 berman
3.00 joegertler
3.00 sodium
1.00 matthewk
1.00 Catfish
1.00 dhc2pilot
1.00 Mattyboy
1.00 paolomiana
1.00 Tripehound Flyboy
0.20 EricGoedkoop

#435 is in the hands of Mr. Filan