Breguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge #451

[Froggy]

Bonjour à tous

Not easy to propose this new challenge
with, I am afraid , not as much suspense as the precedent...




Scoreboard at end of Challenge #450:
the model of the never-realized airship “Le Victorins” ; attributed to the near-forgotten builder-extraordinaire of French aerostats, Henri Rogé ;

87.50 Rbailey
85.20 aerohydro
52.95 Varese2002
41.20 Aquilius
32.80 Rod_Filan
29.45 richard B
26.55 Tork1945
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(those above this section must wait 24 hours before answering)
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10.40 Airarticles
9.20 Doc
8.50 Lodzermensch
7.70 ermeio
7.30 matte_kudasai
7.30 YavorD
6.30 AnYun
6.00 Cruze
6.00 Flamingo
5.90 Froggy
5.00 sobrien
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(those immediately above this section must wait 12 hours before answering.)
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4.20 Wind In The Wires
3.30 berman
3.00 joegertler
3.00 sodium
2.60 Mattyboy
1.00 matthewk
1.00 Catfish
1.00 dhc2pilot
1.00 paolomiana
1.00 Tripehound Flyboy
0.20 EricGoedkoop

Previous challenges are here: Breguet's Pre-1914 Aircraft Challenge

The rules are:

1. The thread title must be "Breguet's Pre-1914 ID Challenge #......".
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The flying object must have been dreamt up before 1914 (no limit backwards in time ....).
4. There are no limits to the flying object for the pre-1914 series. There is no ruling that it must be flown, or completely built.
5. Machines which exist only as 'paper', that is absolutely no material has been cut to construct it, are excluded from this ID Challenge.
6. The picture / drawing must show as much of the flying object as possible, but views showing the machine 'incomplete' are possible (with discretion).
7. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified.
8. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of a flying object for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the object is submitted.
9. Once someone has received 5 (five) points, they belong to ROYALTY, and must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer. Once someone has achieved 25 (twentyfive) points, they must wait 24hrs after the original post before being able to post an answer.
10. In order to correctly identify the flying object, an answer must mention a characteristic of the design which has helped with its identification, or include a reference to a publication or website, which will confirm the attribution.
11. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
12. If a ROYALTY gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
13. The final arbitrator in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.

Cordialement
Bruno

[Rbailey]

The all-metal “Tubavion” of Ponche and Pimard, which went through a number of variations from 1911 on – this looks like about 1912. The undercarriage and metal “framework” around the nacelle containing the engine and pilot are distinctive.

[Froggy]

Bonjour

you got it
It is the 1912 version driven by Marcel Goffin (at Reims orAmiens)

It was the first 100% metal built aeroplane in France
Espacenet - Original document

Scoreboard at end of Challenge #451:
"Tubavion"all metal monoplan -Charles Ponche & Maurice Primard (1909-1912)

88.50 Rbailey

85.20 aerohydro
52.95 Varese2002
41.20 Aquilius
32.80 Rod_Filan
29.45 richard B
26.55 Tork1945
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(those above this section must wait 24 hours before answering)
**************
10.40 Airarticles
9.20 Doc
8.50 Lodzermensch
7.70 ermeio
7.30 matte_kudasai
7.30 YavorD
6.30 AnYun
6.00 Cruze
6.00 Flamingo
5.90 Froggy
5.00 sobrien
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(those immediately above this section must wait 12 hours before answering.)
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4.20 Wind In The Wires
3.30 berman
3.00 joegertler
3.00 sodium
2.60 Mattyboy
1.00 matthewk
1.00 Catfish
1.00 dhc2pilot
1.00 paolomiana
1.00 Tripehound Flyboy
0.20 EricGoedkoop

Next for you

Cordialement
Bruno

[Rbailey]

The tubavion went on into WW I - it was Breguet's challenge 566 on the WW I board.

[Tork1945]

Originally Posted by Rbailey

The tubavion went on into WW I - it was Breguet's challenge 566 on the WW I board.

Challenge #566 can be found here.

Tork1945