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14 March 2004, 11:01 AM
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15 March 2004, 06:16 AM
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I was thinking about deleting those, glad to see someone else is interested in the Pfalz. By they way the e-mail address is no longer valid.
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15 March 2004, 08:54 AM
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Does anyone know how the PFW replica is going? I checked their website a while back, but 'twas nada.
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15 March 2004, 10:03 AM
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fltmech, about 90% of the people on this forum are interested in the Pfalz D.III, I'll bet it would easily win the "best looking WW1 aircraft" contest. As far as I'm concerned it's the Holy Grail of replicas, don't know why there aren't more being built. It's high on my list, after the Nieuport 28 gets done. If I don't get distracted by one of the other 20 types I want to build... Life is too short.
Craig, what's the PFW replica?
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15 March 2004, 11:33 AM
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PFW is Pfalz-Flugzeug-Werke.
You may know that they do a replica at present. I assume he is talking about this one.
Achim
P.S. The Pfalz will be on my list next if I ever come to leave the Fokker D.VII behind me..... It would be most fun and very interesting to replicate the original "Wickelrumpf"
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20 March 2004, 08:26 AM
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"Wickelrumpf"?
No fair!
(but I think I can connect the dots)
Achim - is the ply layup difficult?
I would think that would be the part that challenges any craftsman.
As I understand it, Pfalz was particularly unique.
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20 March 2004, 12:19 PM
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Actually Pfalz learned it while building the Roland in License.
It is not difficult, but you need to know how to do it.
You need a massive wood master pattern (half a fuselage) onto wich you lay two diagonal layers of 80-100mm wide strips of vaneer to produce a half shell.
Achim
P.S. for the others: "Wickelrumpf" means "wrapped" fuselage.
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20 March 2004, 12:59 PM
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I would think humidity or unfamiliar technique would raise hell with initial attempts.
But what a gorgeous aircraft it would be.
Roland are orginally coachworks? Wagons? Furniture?
trying to recall...
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"A King may move a man, a father may claim a son,
but remember that even when those who move you be Kings,
or men of power, your soul is in your keeping alone.
When you stand before God, you cannot say,
"But I was told by others to do thus."
Or that,
"Virtue was not convenient at the time."
This will not suffice.."
-Baldwin Four of The Baldwin Piano Company
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20 March 2004, 01:14 PM
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Roland was the brand name of the Products (aircraft) produced by L.F.G. (Luft-Fahrzeug-Gesellschaft mbH or "Air Vehicle Ltd."). Not to be confused with the L.V.G (Luft-Verkehrs-Gesellschaft m.b.H. or "Air Traffic Ltd.").
They did not build coaches, but they used the "Wickelrumpf" first on such planes like their "Walfisch" (Roland or L.F.G. C.II) and later "Haifisch" (Roland or L.F.G. D.II) designs.
The Pfalz Flugzeugwerke G.m.b.H. learned about it during the License production of the Roland airplanes and adopted this construction method for their later designs, starting with the Pfalz D.III in 1917.
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I would think humidity or unfamiliar technique would raise hell with initial attempts.
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Isnīt it this what makes things interesting? Problem solving is fun
Achim
By the way: ROLAND originally was one of the 12 paladins of Karl the Great and defended the rearguard against the Basques after the campaign in Spain. He fell in the year 778 at Roncesvalles. Historically he was the Margrave Hroutland of Brittany. His deeds are sung in French and Italian poems. The company of L.F.G. took him for their company symbol with respect to his legendary strenght. The company logo shows him with wings and a sword.
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20 March 2004, 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by AchimEngels@Mar 20 2004, 03:14 PM
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By the way: ROLAND originally was one of the 12 paladins of Karl the Great and defended the rearguard against the Basques after the campaign in Spain. He fell in the year 778 at Roncesvalles. Historically he was the Margrave Hroutland of Brittany. His deeds are sung in French and Italian poems. The company of L.F.G. took him for their company symbol with respect to his legendary strenght. The company logo shows him with wings and a sword.
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As in knight??
Have wondered about this since a child!
That is some cool backstory, Achim - danke.
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"A King may move a man, a father may claim a son,
but remember that even when those who move you be Kings,
or men of power, your soul is in your keeping alone.
When you stand before God, you cannot say,
"But I was told by others to do thus."
Or that,
"Virtue was not convenient at the time."
This will not suffice.."
-Baldwin Four of The Baldwin Piano Company
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