Fokker Dr1 project

Dogtail2 · 12 March 2007, 10:05 AM

I think 3500 dollars for a complete set of Dr1 ribs is pretty good considering it takes about 3 months of work to make them. Unless you can find somebody mass producing them.

Someone here needs a reality check!

ValentinRiga · 12 March 2007, 03:18 PM

Maybe Someone wants for 3000$ ?????

Ok, but not in ribs is problem , but in original things !!!!!
Some information, fotos , facts or people who know something about realy original things .....

Jim Bruton · 12 March 2007, 06:28 PM

i think this one has about run its course.

jim bruton

Taz · 12 March 2007, 07:47 PM

Jim- Two is in. Could always reassemble 425/17, I guess.

Taz
Terry Phillips

Makhpiyaluta · 13 March 2007, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ValentinRiga

Maybe Someone wants for 3000$ ?????

Ok, but not in ribs is problem , but in original things !!!!!
Some information, fotos , facts or people who know something about realy original things .....

Valentin,

Try to Google for Maximall Benzin Uhr, Bosch magneto switch, Morell rev counter, Axial propeller, Spandau machine guns, Oberursel engine, Sendtner compass, etc. for sale. When you've found all of that see if you still want to build the plane.

Willem

ValentinRiga · 14 March 2007, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makhpiyaluta

Valentin,

Try to Google for Maximall Benzin Uhr, Bosch magneto switch, Morell rev counter, Axial propeller, Spandau machine guns, Oberursel engine, Sendtner compass, etc. for sale. When you've found all of that see if you still want to build the plane.

Willem

Thanks !!!!

But Google is like newspaper, all is arround but nothing realy truth !!! only some fotos and names ....
But Thanks for Your info !!!!

Best Regards !!!!

ValentinRiga · 16 March 2007, 06:33 AM

Hi to All !!!

I think it is two variants :

First - You all Are not intrested to help me ....
And
Second "major" variant - You all don't know how it was ....

Have a good day !!!!

hank jarrett · 16 March 2007, 07:11 AM

Valentin,
I think maybe you have gotten the wrong impression (maybe a language/translation problem). It isn't that no one is interested in helping you, far from it. This group would LOVE to see a fully accurate DR-1 being built. The problem is what you have asked for just doesn't exist or is extraordinarily difficult and expensive to get, (not that you may not find some of it here).
As far as anyone knows, there are NO complete, original Fokker Dr.I plans available. Many have drawn plans, but all seem to have inaccuracies. There are some incomplete wing plans around and I'm sure someone here can provide them if you are serious. Just remember, they are factory plans, and the factory didn't actually BUILD the wings exactly like the plans show. Which one is the "RIGHT" way, how they were built, or how they were drawn?
This forum is a GREAT place to look for original instruments, engines, guns, wheels, tires and hardware, but they are NOT off the shelf items you can just ask someone to send you. They just don't exist any more and we MAKE them as close to original as we can. When someone finds an original part the whole group gets excited and wants drawings and information. It makes ALL the replicas better.
You will have to be patient because you are looking to be a trailblazer and do something a lot of people have tried before (and failed at - to make a perfect replica). Be ready for people to laugh when you say what you want to do (even here). We are all a little crazy to want to build these planes in the first place. It isn't something personal, and when WE laugh it is because we remember trying to do the same thing.
There are no authentic replica, 99.xx% accurate Dr.Is. If there was one there would be 50 people finding things wrong with it. Keep trying and maybe you will be able to build the next benchmark component, that someone else will build better or closer to "the real thing". NONE of us expects to actually succeed at making the perfect replica.
Hank

Taz · 16 March 2007, 10:34 AM

Valentin- Hank is right but you are not listening to what people are telling you.

First- Do you have all the Fokker Dr.I books available and have you researched what is correct on the Fokker Dr.I? If not, do some work. If you are going to build an authentic replica, you need to be an expert on the airplane so you can get it right. Nobody will spoon feed you that knowledge although we will be happy to answer specific questions.

Second- Genuine Dr.I instruments, magnetos and engines are rare and expensive. Oberursels are really rare and expensive. Le Rhones are much more available, but still expensive.

Third- There are no factory plans so who decides what is correct? Become an expert.

Go buy some books and, if you cannot afford them, you cannot afford to build a replica. There are web sites showing all the Dr.I books available. Start picking up instruments, magnetos, etc after the books tell you what you should buy. Try and find an engine and expect to pay a premium for it. Once you are an expert you will discover which Dr.Is came with Le Rhones originally. Join some replica aircraft organizations so you can make contacts to help with all the above and find out who is drawing plans. Subscribe to GWAA and WW-1 Aero and see what is available in the way of parts and engines. Once you have done your homework, people will jump at the chance to help you.

There is no easy way to do what you want to do.

Have fun.

Taz
Terry Phillips

Makhpiyaluta · 16 March 2007, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ValentinRiga

Hi to All !!!

I think it is two variants :

First - You all Are not intrested to help me ....
And
Second "major" variant - You all don't know how it was ....

Have a good day !!!!

Valentin,

Like Hank and Taz already said the people on this forum would love to help you so please try to find all there is written about the DrI. WWI Aero magazine is one of the best sources you will find http://www.aviation-history.com/ww1aero.htm

Willem