Spandau Replica and Fokker DVII and assorted bits

[Ransom E. Olds]

Dave: On a hunch just googled up on the wikipedia a "Carl Lindstrom AG" [umlaut over the o] in Berlin which was a manufacturer of gramophones in the early part of the 20th century. Maybe worth looking into. Ransom

[redbaron1917]

Originally Posted by Dave_Watts

Hi all,

Tony, your work is really great...keep it up!

Yes, the old "Klingstrom" device. Twenty years ago I called it that as this was all I knew. Udo Jorges was over on a visit and asked me what was this Klingstrom name, it was not a German word or name and made no sense. I looked at some of the cast fixed bronze arm pieceson the guns and most had lettering struck into them. One was very clean and crisp and he told me to really look at it and tell him what it said...exactly. It was easy to see it was stamped "C.LINDSTROM", and he said immediately, yes, Lindstrom is for sure a German name, and this must be the company who made these pieces. This "C.LINDSTROM", as I recall, is only present on the fixed arm bronze cast pieces. The piece is really a Kurbellagerbock or Segenhebel. Various forms carried various marks, such as "FWF" for Fokker Waffen Fabrik or "D.R.P.A." for Deutches Reichs Patent Authority. The one drawing you posted showed the "high handle" with the gear teeth, used for recharging the gun, and it was termed a Durchladehebel.

So, saying "Lindstrom" device instead of "Klingstrom" is for sure correct, but still a bit too inclusive, as it is not the name for the device, just the manufacturer. It's just the same as what happened with the German LMG Maxim guns being termed as Spandau guns as this was always the name allied soldiers saw on the top of the German aircraft guns, even though it was simply the name of the arsenal manufacturer...and the name stuck. I guess as long as what you say conveys the meaning, no harm, no foul. Nobody likes a stickler!

Spandaus with Lindstrom devices is easier to say than German Maxim LMG 08/15 guns with Segenhebel or Durchladehebel devices!

Very best and Merry Christmas!
Dave W.

Thanks a million Dave. Further measuring and reasearch leads me to believe (assume) [ dangerous at times to do that] the gear is 14.5 degrees pessure angle and 3" pitch diameter with 36 teeth if it were a full gear. I will be posting updated solid model over the weekend, I hope.

Best Regards and Merry Christmas to all,

Tony

[redbaron1917]

The gear company sent me a file that doesn't lend itself well to using on the handle. Just about have a work around figured out.

Here is a bit of modeling on the clock style round counter. A few internals are drawn, but far from complete. Have to buy another hollow ground gunsmith screwdriver for a couple of screws that have mere cracks for slots!

Best Regards,

PS I am still working on the smaller face divisions and numerals.

Tony

[gipsymoth236k]

Hey Tony,

Your Spandau repros are really making progress!

I assume you already have these, but just in case, here are a couple photos of original Spandau MG Morell ammo counters:





Regards,
Gary Sewall

[redbaron1917]

Thanks Gary. As usual, you seem to have a wealth of pictures or artifacts

I do have access to a Wilhem Morell counter.

Best Regards,

Tony

[redbaron1917]

Second attempt ! Tried to post earlier and PC froze.

here is a screen shot of the counter assembly with an original face held up for comparison.

Sharp eyes may spot the 4 x's not centered on the face. they aren't ! They are shifted about .7mm to the left. 10X loupe and calipers to verify. Just didn't look centered to me when I initially started drawing.

It will take a while to draw the Wilhelm Morell Leipzig font! I will add it later.

Best Regards,

Tony Moore

[Von Writter]

The detail is Fantastic Tony! Lookin great!

[redbaron1917]

Thanks Troy! One of the next projects is to make a casting pattern for the forward receiver. The original was cast and I intend to do the same.

I may consider a multipiece weldment though. It would require some grinding and bead blasting of some surfaces to have the proper appearance.

Best Regards,

Tony

[redbaron1917]

Here is the forward reciever so far. About 4 hours CAD so far and probably 6 to 10 to go

Note: there are no fillets yet. They are done dead last after all features are created.

Cheers!

Tony Moore

[Jim Bruton]

Looks good Tony!