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Old 27 September 1999, 10:49 AM   #1
Lee Edw. Branch
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I need a source that could provide tech. materials on the 220: Ie assembly/service/parts manuals/service notes. Would appreciate any thoughts. VBR. Lee
Old 29 September 1999, 07:25 PM   #2
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Greetings Lee Branch: There is a whole section on WWI engines in Jane's Fighting Aircraft of WWI (1990 edition). Lee, you should write The Military Press 225 Park Avenue South, New York, NY 10003. They may be able to reference shop and maintenance manuals. Let me know how make out. With kindest regards, Billy H/EOM/9/30/99.
Old 30 September 1999, 10:16 AM   #3
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Billy: Thanks for your courtesy. I believe I have accurate info. on the nature of the SPAD XIII'S 220 H.P. "Hisso" failures or, as Hartney tells us, "Damn those SPADS!") I need the manual(s) to further corroborate some prior research. Am off to San Diego, where the Librarian at the Air Museum tells me "There's a lotta stuff here on the Hisso." I am also trying to get a phone # on Ellie Sommer who for years published a SPAD NEWSLETTER from here in Calif. BTW: I am looking at the 1989 "Squadron/Signals Pub. No. 93" on the SPADS and I quote:"The U.S. did not receive their SPADS until the French had worked out all its problems." Wouldn't the good Harold H. be in a bit of a rage were he still around to read this particular statement? I have found a reference to the fact that the British, in desperation, actually stripped off the reduction housing assembly and machined up an adaptor which allowed them to install the propeller directly onto the nose of the crankshaft and thereby run their 220 Hissos (and their licensed-built version of it) as a "direct drive". The termed this engine a "200 HP" as they fitted it to their SE-5s. I'm outlining an article which will discuss the reasons why the Hispano people went to the gear drive and why it failed,etc. I'll make sure you get a copy as I finalize it--- probably at least two months hence. How was the Phoenix trip? Do you have anything on Marjorie Luke? She was at KABC-TV years ago in Hollywood and was trying to sell her version of FL, who I believe was an uncle. One FL script was around as early as '31 when one of the major studios had an option on it. I've looked at the "27th Pursuit Squadron" web site and they don't have much info. on the FL film which they identify as "21". Could be it is an "in house" effort from the author of the site? Who is the "Muttley" who was asked re the film on a recent thread here? Hey! writing a book here! Time time to go! VBR. Lee
Old 1 October 1999, 10:14 AM   #4
Roberto Gentilli
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I think I have the handbook of that engine somewhere (in Italian, as it was licence built in Italy). If you need it -and if I manage to find it - I can give you xerocopies
R Gentilli
Old 1 October 1999, 10:54 AM   #5
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I would certainly appreciate anything you could do for me regarding providing copies of your material on the 220. I would most gratefully reimburse you for any expenses involved and hope that I may further repay your generosity with similar future efforts on my part. Sincerely yours. LEB
Old 30 October 1999, 08:02 PM   #6
Dave Watts
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Hi Lee,

I was wandering back through old posts and caught yours. I had a owners manual for the Hisso. It showed how to uncrate the motor, assemble, and set the tolerances. It also dealt with service and more. It even had the foldout "blue-print" drawings. It was pretty neat how I found it. I'm in Indy and we have the reknowned 500 mile race. I was at a flea market and spotted the manual. It was interesting to me since I am a WWI nut, and it was also interesting in the fact that it had a lot of formulas and hand written information in it. The formulas were for road friction, and it went into coefficient for "dirt", "good dirt", "wood", "brick", etc. Quite interesting.

I have a Mercedes, so I didn't really need it, and thought it might help out someone else, so I spread the word about three years ago, and a antique race car specialist contacted me through the "grapevine". He had a "half-Hisso", and was in need of the manual. It turns out that race car drivers utilized the motors soon after the war by removing half the pistons, cylinders, etc. and running the motors as straight fours. Some story huh? If you are still interested in the manual, contact me. I'm certain that I can come up with his address and phone. I called him a year ago and had him send me a copy of the "road friction" information, and passed it on to our local 500 track expert.

Dave Watts


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