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Old 7 January 2002, 02:45 PM   #21
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The date of his death is given as March 25, 1943, supposedly in a P-40. I had a friend of mine search the aircraft accident reports, and he was unable to find anything. Recently, on this forum, in a post about H Weir Cook, it was suggested that he was actually flying a P-39. I passed that information to my friend, but have not yet heard back from him about that possibility. I did find a reference in the New York Times, of Monday March 29, 1943, a short note datelined March 28, Indianapolis, saying that he had died Thursday, in the South Pacific war area from injuries suffered in a plane accident. Now I am wondering if the date could be the 26th, because of the International Date line. Have to find the accident report, I guess.

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Old 7 January 2002, 02:52 PM   #22
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Hello, This is JC of the Weir Cook Project.
That is so weird that you didn't find anything on Cook! When I started this I found the same old same old. And that made me more curious & mad at the same time!
Heres what I know:
In 1928 he resigned his captaincy to become VP. & general manager of the Curtis flying service.
In 1941, he became commander of the 38th divs. of the national Guard. Waiting on his combat approval. As we have read in his letters he begged to go back to combat!! He knew that age would be a factor but very persistent to go. And so it was approved.
His tombstone reads:
Harvey Weir Cook Indiana
Col.361 AAF Base HQ & AB SQ WW1 & 2 DSC & OLC
details of death:Postal Telegraph
Died in Pacific area as result of airplane accident.
I've got papers that say died in P-39 but his son told me a P-40 & his favorite being the p-39.
Cause of death: Crashed into mountainside on New Caledonia Island in the South Pacific
If you come across any different let me know.
what's the weather like in march?
I'm in the process of finding out the exact area of death.

Does this mean we can count on your letter of support?
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Hello All,

I've just recently signed on to this site and interested to note discussion re H W Cook project. According to the Aerodrome Aces section (and elsewhere) Cook was KFA here in New Zealand on 25 Mar 1943 whilst flying a P-40.

I've researched and published details of all 4800+ deaths of NZ military airmen, also those of others who so died in NZ - BUT no info re Cook came to light during this work. Would have thought it rather unusual for a 51 year old to by flying a P-40, let alone killing himself in one in NZ.

Can anyone confirm details of his death, exactly where it happened, unit and circumstances?

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Old 7 January 2002, 03:08 PM   #23
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Hello,
I have only gotten 3 from this site. I hope for more though.
Today I received the biggest letter of support yet! It was from DePauw alumni of Delta Kappa Epsilon. On behalf of their 600 + of Weir Cooks Brothers. They had told me they stand behind their own but until you see it in writing you just don't know?
I can't believe how hard it is to get people to send the letter. Why let any veteran go FORGOTTEN !!?? I would do this same thing for another if I was only told of the facts.
Why give a building a Donald name, what has he done for this country & when is he going to stop taking? This veteran was recognized & they had the b___s to take it away cause one man didn't like the name? Yes, it makes me mad. I have not found him yet but this week I will be calling him!
Again " How Can You Give An Honor & Take It Away"?
Wonder how they would like some of their privileges taken away?
I will look for that movie.
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P.S. How's the letter writing coming along? *Anything coming into you???

VBR,

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Old 7 January 2002, 03:20 PM   #24
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FYI, some of you may want to check this out.

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Old 7 January 2002, 03:36 PM   #25
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Thanks Al !!!!
I'd hadn't been back to that site in awhile. Barret said he was going to make Weir's page a good one !
That's my monument I built in Weir's memory. And the park & sign looks great. The up to date info that I give alot of credit to this SITE for !!!!
To see this on the net gives me all I need to go on!
I just hope I can keep my promise to get the airport changed back! Now all can see, this is what I have been talking of so much. And now it's out their for ALL to see & learn.
THANKS!
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Old 7 January 2002, 04:47 PM   #26
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Frank and others,

Thank you for your comments. New Caledonia (750 miles NNW of New Zealand) would seem more likely as the place of his fatal accident, especially given minmal US air activity in New Zealand at the time.

Does the 361 on his tombstone refer to his service number or that of the AAF Base HQ he was with. If the latter, can someone confirm if this relates to a base in New Caledonia?

Presumably, also, his service record would help confirm his last place of posting and death? Has anyone obtained a copy of this to check and confirm details of HWCs career, of which there presently appear to be rather few and sometimes contradictory at that?

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Old 8 January 2002, 05:32 AM   #27
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Here's more that I have found from 1976
Promoted to full Col. in June,1942& was inducted into the federal service by order of the president.

During his overseas duty he was in command of several airfields on the Fiji Islands located in the South Pacific. Cooked served w/ the 361st base headquarters & the 361st Air Base squadron.

This reporter writes:
while talking w/ weir cook jr. I was given some of the details involved in Weir cooks fatal crash. Col. Cook left his base piloting a P-39 Bell corporation Airo-Corba plane. His fathers mission was to bomb a reported submarine in the South Pacific. According to weir Jr. it was the cloudy weather condition which led to the death of his father. while in pursuit of the sub, Cook misjudged the side of the mountain crashing to his death.
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Frank and others,

Thank you for your comments. New Caledonia (750 miles NNW of New Zealand) would seem more likely as the place of his fatal accident, especially given minmal US air activity in New Zealand at the time.

Does the 361 on his tombstone refer to his service number or that of the AAF Base HQ he was with. If the latter, can someone confirm if this relates to a base in New Caledonia?

Presumably, also, his service record would help confirm his last place of posting and death? Has anyone obtained a copy of this to check and confirm details of HWCs career, of which there presently appear to be rather few and sometimes contradictory at that?

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Old 10 January 2002, 04:37 PM   #28
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Dear JC,
Would you like to read Cook's record? Then please refer to the appendix in Rickenbacker's FIGHTING THE FLYING CIRCUS, where the exploits of Cook are there, confirmed, dates and places and times, for all to see...
I know that this book has come under attack for being ghostwritten, and that some forumites doubt some of Rickenbacker's claims... well, here is the record, and, at my last perusal of Webster's, confirmed meant just that, CONFIRMED.
I believe that Cook IS mentioned by name in this book: Rick talks of some pilots being specialists in balloon-busting-- I'll find the passage and get back to it...
Why not purchase this edition? It's a reproduction of the original, from photographic plates, and it's available from Edward Hamilton Booksellers (check EDWARDHAMILTON.com), and it's only about $6... It really is a MAGNIFICENT edition!
Why not do what I do, and, for inspiration, read Rickenbacker's autobiography? Works for me...
And JC, don't ever, ever give up-- the more I read about Cook, the Balloon Buster of the 94th, the more I come to admire this man and patriot...
VBR,
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PS Why not check into who financed the campaigns of some of those "less enthusiastic" politicians-- any money from any Islamic groups? Oh, may God help me, I'm "profiling"!
PPS Er, sorry... make that "May Allah, the Compassionate, help me."
 
Old 11 January 2002, 12:13 AM   #29
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Yes, I have heard it's a good one.
Cook just pulls you write in to where & what he was doing if you read the right info! OK, heres the reason I have not purchased a book yet. It's because I have the letters & photo's. Weir was known for carrying a camera everywhere. And he loved to trade w/ the other countries. The day of his plane crash he had undeveloped film. And in these letters it tells the tell. I have several from Rickenbacker. And probably other famous ones. I'm not sure cause I don't know all the guys. And sometimes when you read, well they have you to believe their right. Like this one letter talks to a man about the financing of the cabin chute. He tells who thought it was a crazy idea & more.
You know what would be neat to find?
Well he was good friends w/Amelia Earheart. And it would be neat to find the last letter from her or to her! Especially since their is such a mystery around her flight.
Or in a book of photos I have a book of very early photos of planes. One looks close to maybe the first. I only say because it looks very funny. And he was buddies w/ the wright brothers & helped them alot. I'm going to post it in the model threads to find someone to translate for me or just tell me what I'm looking at. You have to remember I am helping his family know what their seeing to.
What about financing??I'm not forsure what your ps. means? Wait I know now!!!!!!! Yes, I will. Now now no profiling.
Thank you !
And yes I won't give up!
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Would you like to read Cook's record? Then please refer to the appendix in Rickenbacker's FIGHTING THE FLYING CIRCUS, where the exploits of Cook are there, confirmed, dates and places and times, for all to see...
I know that this book has come under attack for being ghostwritten, and that some forumites doubt some of Rickenbacker's claims... well, here is the record, and, at my last perusal of Webster's, confirmed meant just that, CONFIRMED.
I believe that Cook IS mentioned by name in this book: Rick talks of some pilots being specialists in balloon-busting-- I'll find the passage and get back to it...
Why not purchase this edition? It's a reproduction of the original, from photographic plates, and it's available from Edward Hamilton Booksellers (check EDWARDHAMILTON.com), and it's only about $6... It really is a MAGNIFICENT edition!
Why not do what I do, and, for inspiration, read Rickenbacker's autobiography? Works for me...
And JC, don't ever, ever give up-- the more I read about Cook, the Balloon Buster of the 94th, the more I come to admire this man and patriot...
VBR,
Captain "Chips" Lewis
PS Why not check into who financed the campaigns of some of those "less enthusiastic" politicians-- any money from any Islamic groups? Oh, may God help me, I'm "profiling"!
PPS Er, sorry... make that "May Allah, the Compassionate, help me."
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My email letter has been sent! I hope this project succeeds.
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