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Old 15 January 2003, 11:51 AM   #1
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hi!

I´ve some questions...

Was the "A-H Air Force" a big part of the war? on the net there is a lot information about the german air force... but nothing about the austrian - hungarian.

(if you know some links please post it)

Here on thise site I found that the "Aviatik D.I" was the only austrian built Aircraft. is that right? is there no other noteable aircraft from austria?

and A-H Aicraft´s used the german ensign? true or false?

sorry, I know not much about this... but it´s interresting and I want to learn a little bit *smile*

hope you can help me,

thx.

greetings
 
Old 15 January 2003, 02:16 PM   #2
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Hi , try this link.

http://www.swwisa.net/kuklft/

* * * * * *
* The Austrian versions of the Albatros were better aircraft than the German models.

A German report of Oct 1917 noted the Phoenix D.I deserved notice because " it possesses totally amazing qualities , especially the quickness of maneuver and stability when throttled down. *


I would rate their commander, Emil Uzelac as an *outstanding leader.

* Their aces were also second to none. *I would put a Eugen Boench or a Stefan Fejes up against anyone of the other combatants.

Their aircraft industry was small compared to other combatants. The German Albatros company built more aircraft alone in 1917 than did the entire A-H aircraft industry that same year.

They did create a number of outstanding aircraft designs and not all were fighters.

Here are Austro-Hungarian aircraft companies:

Lohner
Phoenix
Aviatik
Lloyd
Oeffag
UFAG
Fischamend
WKF
MAG
Thoene & Fiala



* * * * * *Marlon Schultz.
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Old 16 January 2003, 02:10 AM   #3
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Hello!
There is a less important & less known/visited website to find on the history of FISCHAMEND :

http://www.luftfahrt-fischamend.at/

Some fighter plane photos are to find on it.
Maybe you find there a few WWI fighter plane photos which might interest you?

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Old 17 January 2003, 12:29 PM   #4
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Austro-Hungarian aviation in WWI had it's own industry and aircraft, albeit some of the firms were subsidiaries of German companies initially. The Austro-Hungarian and Italian aviation of WWI can be a study all it's own. There are some good books out there on various aspects, namely Aces and Aircraft types used by them. Schiffer is publishing Italian Aces of WWI by Roberto Gentilli in English. There will be some interesting material in there to be sure.

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Old 18 January 2003, 01:08 AM   #5
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Austro-Hungarian aviation is a very interesting topic!!!!

I can help you a lot, but I don't have my computer now. Please, wait a few days.

If you are Austrian, there is a great modeler in Wien, Peter Plattner. He has a website.
http://62.178.164.35/%7Ehannes/PP/index.ht...l?links2.html&1

(link is a bit strange, but should work)
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Old 21 January 2003, 09:15 AM   #6
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I've visited Herr Plattner's site, and his work is astounding.
From what I've come across, Austro-Hungarian engines were some of the best fielded by any combatant, and one of the reasons Austrian Albatroses were superior to the German product.
 
Old 21 January 2003, 01:03 PM   #7
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Thank you all! for all the information.

What I´ve learned:

The A-H Air Force was called "Luftfahrtruppe" with german ensigns on the planes.

The "Luftfahrtruppe" used german planes (but build in A-H)

The "LFT" forced the russian and italian air force.



if you know more about it, please post it

thank you and greetings from Vienna.
 
Old 21 January 2003, 03:24 PM   #8
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Thank you all! for all the information.

What I´ve learned:

The A-H Air Force was called "Luftfahrtruppe" with german ensigns on the planes.

The "Luftfahrtruppe" used german planes (but build in A-H)

The "LFT" forced the russian and italian air force.



if you know more about it, please post it

thank you and greetings from Vienna.

Hi Rizzo,

* *To be specific the offical name was " kaiserliche und koenigliche Luftfahrtruppen" *abreviated to "k.u.k. LFT" and finally the shortest form to *"LFT".

* *The A-H naval aircraft also carried red and white
stripes. Some of the naval aircraft also carried the imperial crown on their rudders.
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* * The A-H aircraft industry produced many fine examples of aircraft of original design. *

If you ever have the opportunity , try to examine the following books:

" Air Aces of the Austro-Hungarian Empire 1914-1918" *- Dr. Martin O'Connor

" Austro-Hungarian Army Aircraft of World War 1"
- Grosz, Haddow, Schiemer.

" Die k.u.k. Luftschiffer-und Fliegertruppe Oesterreich-Ungarns 1914-1919" - Ernst Peter.

*The A-H airforce could also have included as opponents , *units of the French (of the Allied armies in The East). One must also not forget to mention the pilots from the various countries that made up the British Empire fighting together in the RFC.

* * * * * * * *Marlon Schultz
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Old 29 January 2003, 09:07 PM   #9
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>Schiffer is publishing Italian Aces of WWI by Roberto Gentilli in English. There will be some interesting material in there to be sure.

I have the Italian edition of Gentilli's/Varriale's/Iozzi's book, and I found it a very interesting book. It has 300 photos and 24 pages of color profiles. The English edition will be huger: revised text, 500 photos and 32 pages of color profiles. The Italian edition has a chapter on each Italian ace, with details about every victory: there are of course plenty of data on A-H air force and photos of A-H pilots and aircrafts. The English edition should have also more general info on the war along the Italian front.
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Old 30 January 2003, 04:00 AM   #10
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Hi!
Here you have promised links:
Hungarians in the AH aviation:http://mit.bme.hu/~tade/pages/acpicts.htm
excellent Czech website, lots of data and photos:http://air.wz.cz/bird.htm
Austrian AH kits database (a bit old and not very precise):
http://www.toegels.at/themodeller/download...ads/kukluft.pdf
And homepage of this website:
http://themodeller.toegels.at/de/
If you need more info, just ask.
And don't belive that Austrians built only German planes. No!!! They designed a lot of good original planes, Aviatik D.I, Phonix D series, Phonix C.I, UFAG C.I and many more. Even famous Etrich Taube was Austrian design.
Greetings from Poland!
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