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Old 16 September 2007, 01:44 PM   #1
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Question Carl Degelow Questions

What was Carl Degelow name before he went to Ellis Island in America?
And when he was in America did he have an ocupation or job? What was it if so.

And does anyone know If my name matches at all to Carl Degelow because i have a reason to believe I may have his same blood.

For any of you who have seen me on there thread I know I asked this question a couple 1 time but I really am getting to know my relatives and I am getting information all of the time ro right down

Zach Degelau
pronounced (De-ge-low)

And Flieger thanks for the book information if your looking at this!

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Old 16 September 2007, 02:05 PM   #2
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Carl Degelow's name was always Carl Degelow.

He was born on 5 January 1891 in Müsterdorf. After receiving a degree in industrial chemistry from the University of Darmstadt, he traveled throughout the USA in 1912 and 1913, visiting and working with various cement manufacturers (his primary interest). He visited Chicago, IL, and El Paso, Texas, but never intended to live in the USA.

He returned to Germany shortly before the outbreak of WWI. He remained in Germany after the war, and retained a reserve affiliation between the wars. He served in the Luftwaffe in WW2, retiring with the rank of Major d.R. a. D. He died in Germany on 9 November 1970, exactly 52 years to the day after he received his Pour le Merite.

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Old 16 September 2007, 02:09 PM   #3
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Wow Great information Thanks!

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Old 16 September 2007, 02:13 PM   #4
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Hi Zach,
I can only repeat information from Peter Kilduffs'Translation of Carl Degelows' Germanys' last Knight of the air. Carl Degelow visited America after graduating from the University of Darmstadt. His field of study was industrial chemistry specialising in the manufacture of concrete. Ellis Island processed immigrants to America so I am unsure whether as a tourist he would have gone through such procedure. His nickname was "Charly" & I beleive his name is as spelt.
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Old 16 September 2007, 02:22 PM   #5
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Thanks for the information!
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Old 22 September 2007, 07:38 AM   #6
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Carl Degelow

While on the subject of Carl Degelow and his book 'Germany's Last Knight of the Air' I beg to differ with some of the information in the captions; mainly with the 'Tony' Raab picture. On page 182 there is a group photograph of the leading officers of Jagdgruppe 6, including Leutnant 'Raab' (adjutant). On page 132 there is another group photo (different group) again with 'Toni' Raab. The only problem they are not the same Antonius Raab! The Adjutant Raab is in fact (according to me and Willy Rosenstein) Raabe, a different sort of a person, head and shoulders taller then anyone else with a silly grin and a member of H. Görings Jasta 27 (at least I have a picture of him strolling with H.G. plus Riehm and Kraus and Dilthey). I think the Raabe is Erich Raabe.
Also in his Postcript he implies that Raab was Jewish, page 196 quote..."When the senseless wave of Nazi-instigated anti-Semitism reached its peak in the 1930s Raab left the country. He relocated to Italy..." Raab was not Jewish and he didnt relocate to Italy. He only joined the Air Force about 6 months before the end of the war, having learnt to fly a spotter aircraft for his army unit, and transferred to Jasta 40 shortly before the E.O.W. He was anti-Nazi and had upset Hermann Göring by sueing him for repayment of a loan H.G. had cadged from him and Katzenstein. He went to Riga, Lithuania where he started a factory manufacturing aircraft. Katzenstein's first name was Kurt not 'Hans' as stated. Hope this clears up a few problems.
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Old 22 September 2007, 05:36 PM   #7
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Wow I should really get a copy even though it is out of copy but thanks that does help a bit!
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