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Old 27 July 2014, 04:04 PM   #1
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Most overhyped fighter squadron...?

...and the winner is:

The Lafayette Escadrille.

I mean, outside of Raoul Lufberry, and a few other minor aces, what did these guys do, besides posing with Whiskey and Soda.

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Old 27 July 2014, 05:28 PM   #2
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What they did was build a legend, and that can be a very important thing.
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Old 27 July 2014, 06:58 PM   #3
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What they did was build a legend, and that can be a very important thing.
A legend, yes. But, based on what accomplishments?

41 victories. Whoop tee do. SPA 3 had 175 confirmed victories. Jasta 11 had 350. 56th Squadron had 427.

I mean, with the benefit of time, it looks like they had more propaganda value than anything else.
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Old 27 July 2014, 07:41 PM   #4
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I mean, with the benefit of time, it looks like they had more propaganda value than anything else.
The intangible= what a legend is. Numbers are not everything.

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Old 27 July 2014, 11:29 PM   #5
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Dear Tally Ho,

you're bloody well right.
A legend ? A legend created by the press, not by the pilots themselves.

BTW one of the most underestimated squadrons: 20. Squadron, RFC, pertinaciously brave heroes, who faced the German aces day by day in their FE2's and thus dragging the airwar above German territory

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I mean, with the benefit of time, it looks like they had more propaganda value than anything else.
Very Important Propaganda!

The Hearts and Minds of America were a necessary ingredient to the War Effort. IMHO
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A legend, yes. But, based on what accomplishments?

41 victories. Whoop tee do. SPA 3 had 175 confirmed victories. Jasta 11 had 350. 56th Squadron had 427.

I mean, with the benefit of time, it looks like they had more propaganda value than anything else.
While counting Victory Scores, Don't forget the German Propaganda Machine and MvR!

Eddie Rickenbacker too!

Just to name a few.
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Very Important Propaganda!

The Hearts and Minds of America were a necessary ingredient to the War Effort. IMHO
.....and please note , ....from which the USA made a considerable Profit ! ..... the required re-payment of these debts , which led to the eventual "Blame for the war" & imposed "impossible-to-be-met" , terms of the 1919 treaty , which led to etc. etc.
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.....and please note , ....from which the USA made a considerable Profit ! ..... the required re-payment of these debts , which led to the eventual "Blame for the war" & imposed "impossible-to-be-met" , terms of the 1919 treaty , which led to etc. etc.
Good Point John!

Some things Never Change and still continue.
Are Politics and Money separate?
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Very Important Propaganda!

The Hearts and Minds of America were a necessary ingredient to the War Effort. IMHO
Especially that war.

Up until the Zimmerman Telegram and the March 1917 ship sinkings, many Americans wanted nothing to do with the war in Europe. Wilson, I believe, had a change of heart and led the charge to war in Congress. Goading by Teddy Roosevelt certainly had it's effect.

He ran, incidently, on "He kept us out of War" slogan. Nothing new here. He was a politician, and although I probably wouldn't have voted for him, a damn good one by present standards. Currently, I rank the vast majority of politicians down there with child molesters.

But, I digress. And I certainly don't want to step on anybody's old school tie. But the Lafayette Escadrille's exploits were nothing to write home about, in the scheme of things.
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