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Old 9 December 2023, 11:53 AM   #1
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Airco DH-2 paint scheme

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At In Action Nr. 171 publication is given coloured schema of 5967 aircraft which was assigned to Flight A of 24-th Squadron. Unfortunately I have not found any real photo of this aircraft. How did author made this picture?

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Hello,

At In Action Nr. 171 publication is given coloured schema of 5967 aircraft which was assigned to Flight A of 24-th Squadron. Unfortunately I have not found any real photo of this aircraft. How did author made this picture?

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Greetings vlr,

Artist Ronny Bar likely researched known information and photographs of this Squadron's Colors for this period used by Flight A, 24th Squadron.

There is probably photos of this machine and researching is the fun part.

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Greetings vlr,

Artist Ronny Bar likely researched known information and photographs of this Squadron's Colors for this period used by Flight A, 24th Squadron.

There is probably photos of this machine and researching is the fun part.

MERRY CHRISTMAS, FOKKERJ

I found out, that 5967 was flown by Sir Robert Henry Magnus Spencer Saundby. His initial successes began on 31 July 1916 with this aircraft; he drove down a Fokker Eindekker out of control, and was slightly wounded in the process.

Merry Christmas

Unfortunately I haven't discovered any photo of his aircraft. Do you have any idea where should I look for?

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I found out, that 5967 was flown by Sir Robert Henry Magnus Spencer Saundby. His initial successes began on 31 July 1916 with this aircraft; he drove down a Fokker Eindekker out of control, and was slightly wounded in the process.

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Unfortunately I haven't discovered any photo of his aircraft. Do you have any idea where should I look for?
Greetings vlr,

You could contact Ronny Bar. I do not know how to contact him, but he should have this information.

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You " may" find some useful information / photos in the recent Cross & Cockade , UK book , ....Now known as " The Great War Aviation Society ".

The book is devoted to the DH 2 .
" De Haviland 2 & The Men Who Flew Them " . ..... 25 .00p + postage , ( which can be quite expensive outside UK ) ....
Unfortunately not available directly to EU due to EU regulations , so get it through a friend .

Lots of dedicated research in there , mainly from people who have specialised in that machine .

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Thank you for the tip. The reason why I'm looking for photos of real aircraft is that I have build 1/4 RC scale model. I used Windsock Nr. 48 data for model design and Squadron Signal publication Nr. 171.

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It flies great! I would like it to take into a scale competition but I have to support the model with photo documentation as well of a real aircraft.

De Havilland DH2 and The Men Who Flew Them is a good tip. Do you have it? If yes, please check if there are photos of this particular aircraft.

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Hello , Yes I do have it , the reason being that at one time , with a friend , I had an interest in this machine as a full size .

I will try to find the time to see if there is anything of use to you regarding this particular machine (or not) ......... I will come back to this thread , about this , either way .

Failing that , the C & C society has a Forum , where questions may be asked ... Sometimes there are replies , although most members interests seem more directed to "personnel" rather than machines ....

Looks like a great model that you have made & at 1/4 scale , I guess flies quite realistically slowly too .

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Hello Vir ,
Just found it so will check it out .
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AMC , de Havilland DH 2 .

Vir ,...

I have had a good look through the book & find no photo exists of 5967 ...... There are over 250 pages in this very comprehensive book .

There are a few ( although not very sharpest !) , photos of aircraft with serials close to the number of 5967 , used in 24 Sq , and from which probably ,... the R.B. colour scheme that you have , has been derived .

The Main DH2 research leader has been Barry Gray and on this research the colour drawing was very likely based ,... The " Red / White bands to the Interplane Struts ,with Red wheel covers " are only for A Flight ,.. you can check with Ronny at :-

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I am no expert on AMC. , de Havilland DH2 machines but it may be that at the time of Saundby's useage of 5967 , the machine may have by then , aquired an FE8 , 4 blade prop ,.... as the original 2 blader's were supposed to have been replaced by June 1916 .
Additionally you might want to do some research to verify whether the Service tank , as originally fitted below the upper wing , had ,...by the date you are considering ,... been relocated to "above" the upper wing .
There were a number of modification / improvements carried out during its development .

As I understand it ,..there were several pilots allotted this machine during its useful life and a number of repairs .

Best I can help with , but I would highly recommend purchase of the book .

JM

PS ... Not Airco DH-2 ,... " Airco " only came into usage after Oct '18 , and until Sept '20 .......for DH 11 to 27 .

Correct name should be ( Aircraft Manufacturing Co Ltd ) ,.,,,." AMC , de Havilland DH2 "......
used for DH 1--10 ,....from 1914 'till Sept 1918 .

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