Breguet's Aircraft id challenge # 47

[Dave_Kent]

more distinctive

Dave

The scores are now:

9 Varese2002
5,6 ercoupepilot
5,1 Rbailey
5 Dave_Kent
4,9 Breguet
4 Eric Goedkoop
3,6 Rod Filan
2,8 JohnMacG
2 Colin A Owers
1 Gilles
1 Cruze
1 bshatzer
1 joegertler
0,5 YavorD

[Rod_Filan]

No idea what it looks like, but I did find a description that fits.

1916 single-seater fighter sesquiplane vee-strut pusher.

Dornier V 1

VBR
Rod

[Dave_Kent]

That is indeed the machine! It is also often listed under Zeppelin-Lindau.

Dave

The scores are now:

9 Varese2002
5,6 ercoupepilot
5,1 Rbailey
5 Dave_Kent
4,9 Breguet
4,6 Rod Filan
4 Eric Goedkoop
2,8 JohnMacG
2 Colin A Owers
1 Gilles
1 Cruze
1 bshatzer
1 joegertler
0,5 YavorD

[Rod_Filan]

Awesome. Indeed I was thinking I should have called it the Zeppelin-Lindau V 1. I suppose it is the proper name.
One built - flown once - pilot died.
Not good.

VBR
Rod

[Rbailey]

According th the RAF Museum thesaurus, Zepellin-Lindau is the preferred designation.

[Varese2002]

There is an exhaustive article on the Dornier V1 in WW1 Aero 126 (november 1989), with lots of pictures of the machine including the one in this Challenge.

The machine was (of course) designed by Claudius Dornier. In the article is a copy of an original design drawing of the machine. It is called there Versuchs-Flugzeug 1. Further I can read on the drawing Luftschiffbau Zeppelin G.m.b.H Abteilung "Do" (with parenthesis).

I see nothing about Zeppelin-Lindau :blush:

Kees

[Doc]

According to a publication I have from Dornier, it's designation was Dornier V-1. No mention of the ZeppelinWork. Described as "The Do V1 marks the beginning of landplane development. It was a braced biplane with a lower wing of reduced depth. All-metal design with the wings and empennage covered with fabric. The truss fuselage was relatively short. The upper wing was of the two-spar type, the lower wing of the single-spar type with additional duraluminum ribs. The powereplant consisted of a Mercedes engine and a Garuda pusher propeller. To keep the forward firing area free, the powereplant and the propeller were installed behind the pilot. The engine was mounted onto a sheet steel frame to which the landing gear and wing connections were also mounted. The extension of the frame was the installation point of the adjustable pilot seat. The front part of the fuselage panelling could be removed for refuelling and for cheks of the controls and instruments. The aircraft had stick control, and pedals were provided for rudder control. The ribbed radiator was mounted on the front spar of the upper wing and was braced with the rear spar. Flight testing started in September 1916."

Sounds like it had some interesting concepts incorporated. Doc

[Varese2002]

According to a publication I have from Dornier, it's designation was Dornier V-1. No mention of the ZeppelinWork. Described as "The Do V1 marks the beginning of landplane development. It was a braced biplane with a lower wing of reduced depth. All-metal design with the wings and empennage covered with fabric. The truss fuselage was relatively short. The upper wing was of the two-spar type, the lower wing of the single-spar type with additional duraluminum ribs. The powereplant consisted of a Mercedes engine and a Garuda pusher propeller. To keep the forward firing area free, the powereplant and the propeller were installed behind the pilot. The engine was mounted onto a sheet steel frame to which the landing gear and wing connections were also mounted. The extension of the frame was the installation point of the adjustable pilot seat. The front part of the fuselage panelling could be removed for refuelling and for cheks of the controls and instruments. The aircraft had stick control, and pedals were provided for rudder control. The ribbed radiator was mounted on the front spar of the upper wing and was braced with the rear spar. Flight testing started in September 1916."

Sounds like it had some interesting concepts incorporated. Doc

The article in WW1 Aero on the Dornier V1 is based on an article of the Dornier testpilot B.E.Schröter published in the german magazine Illustrierte Flugwoche 1927.

To quote:

In its construction aluminium (Duraluminium) was extensively used. The struts were made from the well-known steamlined tube sections. The linen-covered wing unit was supported by two V-shaped struts and reinforced with cross-wire bracing, not unlike the Nieuport sesquiplanes of the first half of the War. The upper wing possessed two spars, each one consisting of two U-shaped sections. To balance the front-pressure, formers made of Dural section were installed, and the wings were fitted with wirebracing. The ribs too were made of Duraluminium. The unbalanced ailerons were cable-and-pulley operated.

Certainly Dornier was using the expertise in Duraluminium construction obtained in the Riesen Seeflugzeuge (RS) to good use.

Incidentally the engine in this article for the Dornier V 1 is given as a 160 hp Maybach.

This is a copy of the Übersichtszeichnung of Versuchs-Flugzeug 1.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h179/Varese2002/DornierV.jpg

Kees