Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge #99

[EdStevens]

We are one away from the century mark. As a sign of respect, I think that Breguet should do #100, since he initiated this game and should mark the anniversary. I'll be happy to take the reins back (if needed) after that. What do you say?

In the meantime, here's number 99:

http://www.rpmcreative.com/ed_personal/ed9.jpg

The score at the start of Challenge #99 is:

17.5 Varese2002
8.6 Rod Filan
7.5 Rbailey
7.3 Dave_Kent
7.0 Breguet
6 Eric Goedkoop
5.6 ercoupepilot
5.3 EdStevens
4.7 JohnMacG
4.5 Colin A Owers
4.3 YavorD
4 greenknight
2 bshatzer
2 Gilles
2 joegertler
1 Cruze
1 Peter Zambori
.7 dpolglaze
.4 Vilkata
.2 Paul_J._Fisher

Past Challenges: http://www.earlyaviator.com/br.challenge/

[YavorD]

Fokker M.21 (D.IV) 1916

[EdStevens]

Congratulations, YavorD! You just made ace status!

It is the Fokker D.IV -- not one of Antony's more successful designs.

Control of the game passes to you...

The score at the end of Challenge #99 is:

17.5 Varese2002
8.6 Rod Filan
7.5 Rbailey
7.3 Dave_Kent
7.0 Breguet
6 Eric Goedkoop
5.6 ercoupepilot
5.3 YavorD
5.3 EdStevens
4.7 JohnMacG
4.5 Colin A Owers
4 greenknight
2 bshatzer
2 Gilles
2 joegertler
1 Cruze
1 Peter Zambori
.7 dpolglaze
.4 Vilkata
.2 Paul_J._Fisher

Past Challenges: http://www.earlyaviator.com/br.challenge/

[YavorD]

Thanks!

What about proposed out-of-sequence round No.100 handled by Breguet?
I am supporting this idea.

In any case, i need some time to find a plane difficult enough for the experts there, as well as to check my choice(s) against all the 99 rounds already done.

Regards,
Yavor

[EdStevens]

Let's wait to hear from Breguet and see what he thinks. And there's no rush in lining up aircraft -- it happens when it happens IMO.

[Varese2002]

Congratulations Yavor on entering the holy ground of the Aces :) . I support the plea that Breguet submits the jubilee Challenge #100. Can I hope it will be one of his favorite seaplanes or flying boats :lol:

Kees

[Breguet]

Thanks guys, I'm really touched. I'll post the "centenery challenge" shortly!

[Varese2002]

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It is the Fokker D.IV -- not one of Antony's more successful designs.---


The picture of this Challenge shows one of the four Fokker D.IV machines acquired by Sweden in 1917 (less engines and armament).
When they were delivered the machines were hidden in a hangar at Stockholm aerodrome and were never flown. The precious engines were never installed, but used for other purposes. Even the national colours of Sweden were not painted on.:(

One wonders why the machines were bought in the first place, if they were so bad. The buyers must have had an idea about the flying quality of this machine?

Kees

[vb136]

These aircraft were payed for by public subscription, and were intended for the air-defence of the Swedish capital. A contract was signed with Fokker on 24 January 1917, for the delivery of 4 DIV Doppeldecker neuesten Typs.

The aircraft were not delivered until March 1918, and were then placed in a hangar and never flown. The aircraft were not assigned to the Swedish Flying Corps, due to unknown bureaucratic reasons. Permission to fly the aircraft were not given until 1920, but by then, more modern aircraft were available in abundance.

[Varese2002]

--- A contract was signed with Fokker on 24 January 1917, for the delivery of 4 DIV Doppeldecker neuesten Typs.
The aircraft were not delivered until March 1918, ----

VB136
Interesting, there is more than a year between the signing of the contract and the delivery. In a time of exceptional technological development this was surely unacceptable. Should there be no stipulations in the contract about time of delivery. Probably Fokker had the best part of it, earning money for useless machines that were probably already "lying" around in the Fokker factory in Schwerin.

Kees

[Cigogne]

This particular D.IV was delivered to Sweden in 1918 with a Benz engine. It was 1 of 4 that was delivered to them then.