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jc
11 November 2007, 07:30 PM
Hi GUYS I'm back,
It's been awhile so I have lots to catch up on. I am still working on the Weir Cook Project-restoring his name back to the Indianapolis Airport. Were on the move again-some things have changed like more people helping the project & people we have to talk with. We did get Weir Cooks picture up at the Governors office & cleaned (so far 6 months), the Indianapolis star featured us (it was not as a great story as I thought they could of done-new guy???) www.indystar.com--search weir cook. Please check it out & leave a comment of support for this project it doesn't matter from what state your from or country. Don't mind the rude guys who have rude comments for our Vets. I could write a book on these stupid ___ with the thoughts I have of them.

Anyway, I wanted to do something good for Vetrerans day. I have these 2 paper books (not published) typed on white paper by who not for sure??? Found these in my auction boxes & thought someone might need the info...
I haven't read it, haven't done any research on this person, just want to share it.
So here goes.....Happy Veterans Day to all....past Veterans & Present !


Cover: E.W. Desbarats COTC RVRC RNAS RAF AUG.1917- MAY 1919
Top: ??.???.Lt. E.W. Desbarats R N A S
1918

page 1: is a copy of....reads: stationary logo Buckingham Palace
The Queen joins me in welcoming you on your release from the (miseies??) & hardships, which you have endured with so much patence & courage.
During these many months of trial,the early rescue of our gallant officers & men from the cruelties of their captivity has been uppermost in opur thoughts.
we are thankful that this longed for day has arrived, & that back in? the old country you will be able once more to enjoy the happiness of a home & to see good days among those who ansciously look for your return.
signed George R. J?


2. A copied cartoon page of: holzminden in a german prison camp

3.
As far as I know I was the only Canadian of a bilingual Quebec family who actually fought as a Royal Naval Air Service pilot in France. (Raymond and Dubuc were in seaplane squadrons.

My father was pure French-Canadian,in the direct line since 1670. My mother was the daughter of Dr. Duncan MacCallum and mademoiselle guy,also a completely French-Candian family.

My father was an officer with the VRC and a member of the Bisley team in 1890.

So when war came in 1914 I was all set to enlist in VRC which was forming the 14th Battalion for oversea s ervice.

That year 1914 was the second since having left Loyola College ( with scholarship for the last two years of arts). The reason for this being that the Doctors had told my father that his heart could give out at any moment ( he lived for over 40 years until he died of old age). So he felt that I should start to work in Desbarats Advertising Agency.
Anyhow he gave me the job of soliciting advertisements for the mcGill Daily. To do this it was necessary that I be registered as a student at McGill. So I took a partime course in Chemistry-which turned out both useful,interesting and most instructive
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But the work of selling space to reluctant shopkeepers was very wearing in the hot summer of 1914. I came down with what was probably heat prostration.
So it was easy for my father to block my enlistment. A word to my Uncle-Dr. Duncan Campbell MacCallum. He was the Medical Officer examing recruits- and I was turned down as suffering from heat trouble caused by excessive smoking- and at that time I had never tried s cigarette or pipe.
However in the Autum of 1914 the McGill Univ. C.O.T.C. started accepting recruits. I joined up. Soon learnt the drill, made some good friends and specialised in Signals.
In 1915 got a good certificate from the COTC and was accepted as a lieutenent in the VRC.
Here Col.McRobie set me to work organising and training a Signal Section.
The VRC Mess was very agreeable. One of the most useful things I learnt there was how to play Bridge. Bruce Claxton and myself played regularly with Capt.Molson and Capt. Pillow. Weinvariable lost but our two siniors took very good care to keep the stakes low.
We had a number of field exercises over Fletcher's Field (Parc Jeanne Mance) and the mountain when my signallers were supposed to maintain communications and tranmit orders by flag and lamp. Confusion worse confounded.
Then on a beautiful autum day there was a parade of
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of all the troops in Montreal-VRC, Highlanders,Guards,Fusiliers Mt.Royal,RHA,the COTCs,the Cadet Battalions. Inspections by the Governor-General on Fletcher's Field, where we stood in the blazing sun for over three hours.
Never in these days do we see a spectacle like that-and the thrill of the music- the fife and drums of the rifle regiments, the bagpipes of the Highlanders,the full bands.
Christmas week in Montreal in 1915-no water due to the feeder pipes in the St. Lawrence being blocked with frazil ice. A number of bad fires,culminating in a blaze on St. Louis Square burning two full blocks,stopped only by dynamiting-with the firemen shovelling snow on to the flames
This Christmas Marie,the young sister of my closest friend-Gerard Jobin-appeared for the first time in a party dress-violet velvet.
By the time the 148th Battalion formed by Col. McGee early in 1916 I realised that I would never get overseas unless I did something stronger than simply volunteering for the forming battalions.
For years since the Wright Brothers flew at Kitty Hawk, and the silver Dart in Nova Scotia,and especially since seeing the first flying show at Valois,I had been buring with the desire to fly.
Early in 1916 this seemed impossible. The Royal Naval Air Service were accepting only candidates who already had their flying certificates and were able to pay
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their way to join up in England. No money available for me to do that. Men like Frank McGill,Raymond and Marcel Dubic took their flying lessons in N.Y. State-given by a girl whopse name I have forgotten. They all finished flying seaplanes. However suddenly there was good news. Admiral Mark kerr came to Ottawa and announced that the RNAS would accept a number of approved candidates,transpor them to England and give them their RNAS flight training- and pay them from the date of their embarkation at the rate for PFO's (Probationary Flight officers)-10s a day a full $2.50 in those days.
I immediately put in my application and on Dec.19 was summoned to an interview by the department of Naval Service in Ottawa, all expenses paid.
The interview went well and on Dec. 22 a letter from the department notified me tht my application had been approved and that I would become a PFO as from the date of my departure from Canada-in about three months time.
A further letter on Jan.8,917 told me that the Militia Department did not object to my transfer to the RNAS. However Col. McRobie was quite sore at losing his signals Officer.

*****This journal goes on and I'm more then happy to keep the story comming like his flight training, day to day of what it was like, fatal crashes during the time at Chingford Jennies stalling,others M.F. Longhorns which simply disentegrated in the air. Caused by pilots pushing gogles over their helmets into the propeller behind. If anyones intrested in this man history of military let me know. It is very intresting but keep in mind I'm not sure who he is just now reading this.
Jc

stephen
15 November 2007, 02:17 PM
Hi Christie:

Please tell me where you got the story of Desbarats... I knew him in the late '80's and we corresponded quite a bit. I'd love to read anything written on him. Thanks,

Stephen

Taz
15 November 2007, 03:54 PM
jc, Stephen- Sounds fascinating. Can you give a little background on Desbarats, Stephen? Would be great to scan the whole document and digitize it.

Taz
Terry Phillips

Kilian
15 November 2007, 04:07 PM
Hello jc.

The link you gave is broken. Can you post it again?

jc
16 November 2007, 07:18 AM
Hi Christie:

Please tell me where you got the story of Desbarats... I knew him in the late '80's and we corresponded quite a bit. I'd love to read anything written on him. Thanks,

Stephen

Hi Stephen,
I buy everything military at auctions, that I can afford. This was in a box of papers that I rescued before people tore through it. It's not on the thin rice paper but feels typed with no white out corrections but type overs. The langauge is in the first party. It's not signed any where, front cover is a copy of a cartoon "Central Prisoners Of War"

That you know of, did anyone get his story? As I flip through the pages my favorites is his determination !!! to fly. WOW, like June 19th, one good flip in the morning,then at 9.40 am was at 200ft and was caught in a sudden rain,hail and thunder shower. Tried to land but arrived too close to end of drome. Rose again to make a 1/2 circuit when my motor conked out,forcing me to land in a potato field. Made a decent landing but the front skid of my avro dug into a rise in the ground. The machine turned over and crashed. In the process I got banged my face against the instrument panel and got considerably cut up. However the surgeon was right at hand in his tent and sewed the cuts up. Then that same PM went up for two short flips and made decent landings. After a crash go right up again-no loss of nerve.

These men got beat up ! I like how he tells it day by day. He does mention of a well known football player from Toronto, at Cranwell. He got himself into a flat spin at around 200 ft, and span right down to the ground. Wrecked his BE2C, and walked right to the office and resigned.
Or when he was entrusted with a brand new BE2C. Went up with Fl.- Lt. Gillespie to try it out. The beautiful V-8 Renault by roll-Royce took us off at a very steep climb. I thought Gillie spie had gone mad,he thought the same about me. That beautiful engine kept climbing just above stalling speed. Gillespie started to climb out on the wing to see what the trouble was. So I immediately took over the joystick but found it immovable,Then I saw that the stick was firmly tied back to my seat. Luckily I always carried a big pocket knife. So I unbutton my leather flying coat and got it out,cut the cord and all is well. The mechanic explained that the stick had been tied back so that it wouldn't damage the beautiful instrument panel.

It's a no wonder any of these men made it through those years of flying!! And Weir Cook wanted more after I. Damn it, The Indianapolis Airport MUST realize the dedication of these men not only Cook but ALL early Pilots!!! I think they need to remember "It's an honor that we fly not a damn given right"! Opps-got my blood boiling again better hurry & make notes for my talk w/the Mayor & City coming up. You need to get this book I can't seem to put it down-HELP! It makes someone like me who wants to actually feel the persons emotions as it happens & his story does. And I'm just pulling areas out by the turning of several pages. It walks you from start to the HAPPY ending of marriage.

Last page (54) May 24 went for a walk on the mountain with Marie. I had bought a ring at Hemsley's. We got engaged. And that is the end of that story and the start of another.

Jc

jc
16 November 2007, 07:40 AM
Hello jc.

The link you gave is broken. Can you post it again?

IndyStar.com | Friday,*November*16,*2007 | Indianapolis, IN (http://www.indystar.com) go to search, put in weir cook.

Thanks for reading! If you'd like to support our cause of RESTORING WWI Ace H Weir Cook back to the (Indiana) Indianapolis Airport just leave a show of support here & I'll copy it & add it with the others. Our goal was 1,000 support letters & I think by Sat. it will be over! This site is where it began so many years ago & I think with the support of all from here,orgs from local to across the states I hope to bring good words back here saying something was done by year end! We must stop here & say enough is enough of forgetting our soldiers!!!!! I'm tired of hearing; Can't they just be happy they served , do they need more patting on the back. I say YES they do, and if those guys don't feel this way don't say nothing & let us restore the honor back. The list of forgotten soldiers is already to LOOONG !!!!
Jc