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Raineranton
15 December 2013, 12:42 PM
Hello All,

I don't know if this was asked before:

When the Americans used time datas in their reports, do they also used British time, or do they used MET, that means German time?

For example is the report of George A. Vaughn Jr. according to the fight on 22 September 1918, when he claimed two Fokkers between 8:45 and 8:55 AM. Does this mean British or German time?

Thank you for your help.

Regards

Rainer

Volker_Nemsch
17 December 2013, 07:04 AM
Hello!

"The Jasta War Chonology" mentiones, that Ltn. W. Neuenhofen of Jasta 27 forced Vaughn to land his aircraft (zur Landung gezwungen) after a fight. The time is given with 08:50 on 22. September 1918.

Here the time(s) fit together - he claimed 2 Fokker D.VII's between 08:45 and 08:55. After that he had to land his Sopwith Camel. The only loss on that day against 17th Aero was Ltn. Karl Barenfeind (the correct spelling is Karl Bauernfeind) of Jasta 34b.

So at least Germans and Americans had the same time. But in my opinion it would make no sense to have a "different time" as your own comrades (French and British Forces).
;)

Just an idea...
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Raineranton
17 December 2013, 08:20 AM
So at least Germans and Americans had the same time. But in my opinion it would make no sense to have a "different time" as your own comrades (French and British Forces).
;)

Just an idea...
.

Thank you Volker!

that is also my thought. So hopefully one of the American experts can answer this question for sure!?!?!

Regards

Rainer

rammjaeger
21 December 2013, 02:10 PM
The Germans had stopped the use of their Summertime in 1918 already on 15 September. The Entente continued the use of Summertime and therefore the times of both sides matched until the Allieds moved back to "normal" time as well. Mr. Henshaw reported this for 5 to 6 October but I have a note about a change from 7 to 8 October 1918. I have not the time to check this today night.

Raineranton
22 December 2013, 08:22 AM
The Germans had stopped the use of their Summertime in 1918 already on 15 September. The Entente continued the use of Summertime and therefore the times of both sides matched until the Allieds moved back to "normal" time as well. Mr. Henshaw reported this for 5 to 6 October but I have a note about a change from 7 to 8 October 1918. I have not the time to check this today night.

Hi Hannes,

thank you for this answer. I checked in the internet according to the summer time in Germany in 1918. It was first planned from Monday 01 April 1918 till Sunday 29 September 1918. But this was changed on 07 March 1918 (Verordnung des Gesamtministeriums vom 7. März 1918, betreffend die Einführung der Sommerzeit für das Jahr 1918) to the following:

Beginning on: Monday 15 April 1918
Ending on: Sunday 15 September 1918.

Did not expect the end of the summer time so early. :blink:

Regards

Rainer

rammjaeger
22 December 2013, 09:21 AM
Hi Rainer,

this old rule made a lot more sense than today´s late end of Summertime which is only causing additional waste of energy and turning the positive effects into a negative total effect.

Times and related orders were repeatedly discussed here at the Forum and you can find more information with the search function here.

VBR
Hannes