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chesterpiglet
22 May 2020, 06:23 AM
Hi there.
I bought this many years ago in France & never really looked at it until today! I know it is a long shot but does anybody recognise the kit as there are no plans with it. Approx 68cm wingspan, I have attached some photos of some of the cast parts. There is a slip inside with the number G1125013 on but no other clues. I'm assuming it is the Baron Rouge which is written on the non original box.
Any help gratefully received.
Rob

Frommherz
24 May 2020, 05:30 AM
Hi,

it's evidently the crankcase of a Le Rhone respectively Oberursel rotary engine and a pair of lower wings from a Fokker Triplane kit. What else would you expect when there's "Baron Rouge" written on it ^_^

The span of the lower wing was 2495mm on the real thing, from wing root to wing tip. If you measure your model wing you can determine the scale.

You just have to scratch build the other 85% of the model and you'll have a nice Dr.I :rolleyes:

chesterpiglet
24 May 2020, 12:00 PM
Many thanks.......................there are a lot more parts that have not been assembled! "What else would you expect when there's "Baron Rouge" written on it" Sincere apologies................ I didn't realize all his planes were red.

Frommherz
24 May 2020, 02:08 PM
I didn't realize all his planes were red.

Actually not all of his planes were red, he adopted this color scheme some time after taking over Jasta 11, at a time when he already was Germany's top scoring living pilot.
It seems like only one or maybe two of his triplanes received an all red paint job. Most of his triplanes had the red limited to the tail unit, the aircraft spine and the top wing (aside from the squadron livery of red cowling struts and wheel covers).

sator
25 May 2020, 11:38 PM
Do you have the rest of the parts to the kit ?

chesterpiglet
26 May 2020, 01:42 AM
Without a plan I cannot be 100% sure(even with a plan!). Here is a photograph of all the parts I have.

ulpilot
26 May 2020, 04:43 AM
1/8th scale Hasegawa kit.

chesterpiglet
26 May 2020, 05:02 AM
Many thanks!!!

chesterpiglet
26 May 2020, 05:38 AM
Thanks again for the info. It appears it is from their "Museum" Grade Range. 1st problem is mine has no plastic parts- I say "no" as they could of course be missing, but as an example my wheels are made from cast metal & examples I found appeared to have plastic ones. I believe the frame is plastic too- mine has a series of metal rods which I presume you had to solder together...........not a beginners kit. The metal parts on the kit come with a neat label- I can't believe the owner removed all the labels from the unopened packets. I have joined a model forum to see if I can find out more information. From what I have discovered looking at the Hasegawa kit it is certainly not complete, I cannot see an engine cowel or seat, there is no compass or instruments. My prop decals are on a single sheet, on the Hasegawa kit they are on a sheet with the clock dials & other decals.

chesterpiglet
26 May 2020, 05:54 AM
I thought I had cracked it........ it appears to be more like the Hachette "Build your own" Red Baron Plane, but it isn't. It is in fact the French version by F&G Editeurs whereby you bought a magazine with a part of the plane.............. €1000 later you had enough to build your plane!

sator
26 May 2020, 11:07 PM
Looks like quite a project, keep us posted, would like to see the finished product.

John McKenzie
27 May 2020, 07:48 AM
I thought I had cracked it........ it appears to be more like the Hachette "Build your own" Red Baron Plane, but it isn't. It is in fact the French version by F&G Editeurs whereby you bought a magazine with a part of the plane.............. €1000 later you had enough to build your plane!

I think you are correct .
There was an English version of this magazine .
The first issue contained 2 cylinders & maybe something else ,... I can't remember because I only saw the first issue , out of interest .
You are probably correct , that in the end , you pay a fortune for all the pieces .

It is possible that some of the injection part moulds have some connection to the Hasagawa moulds ....I never saw either of this myself so I could not compare them.

.

chesterpiglet
27 May 2020, 09:12 AM
I'm sure you are right John, there are many similarities from what I could see. The completed Hasagawa model when properly built is magnificent.

Bookmaker
5 June 2020, 12:41 PM
If you acquire a decent Fokker DrI model kit, you can probably interpolate where all the parts in your kit go.

Best of luck.

Dale

Beto
2 July 2020, 10:42 PM
The Hachette kit had not a proper instructions leaflet. Each magazine contained a brief description about how to assemble the parts contained. I think the best options to find out where each part go would be either asking at model forums to get a copy of the Hasegawa Fokker instructions, or buy Kagero's book about the Dr.I - It features a lot of renders of the structure of the aircraft.

http://www.kagero.pl/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=175:fokker-dr-i-the-aces-aircraft&catid=94&Itemid=693